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    Quote Originally Posted by Horsehide Harry View Post
    So far at least, none of the international guys the Braves lost as punishment appear to be anything.

    I feel two ways about that: relief from a what might have been POV and alarm that the scouts could whiff that badly on that many and had to cheat (getting caught) to do it.
    Don't think I'd declare them all "misses" just yet. DMGM and the Royals think they have something in Del Rosario, Soto will pass Maitan on the Angels' list this summer, and Gutierrez raked for the Phillies' GCL club when he finally got started there last summer and was 2 years younger than the typical GCL player.
    Waters is intersting too. Would prefer a guy that projects to more power though.

    If they don't make additions they can expect the same 3-5 win improvement they saw last year. That makes the Braves a 75-78 win team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    Wait....

    The schedule allows the Braves to carry an extra hitter for a bit, and folks are happy that hitter is Alex Jackson?
    Who said they were happy? Only analyzing what they must be thinking.

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    It makes sense to carry a third catcher for that first week or so to allow more freedom to use McCann and Flowers as pinch hitters. I'm not so sure that third catcher will be AJax.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    Wait....

    The schedule allows the Braves to carry an extra hitter for a bit, and folks are happy that hitter is Alex Jackson?
    "IF" AJax has improved to the point where he would be considered for that role, would that not be a good thing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mfree80 View Post
    "IF" AJax has improved to the point where he would be considered for that role, would that not be a good thing?
    Can't see the tiniest downside in it - the more time he can spend hanging around Flowers and Mac, the better. He'll learn a whole lot more in two weeks of sitting on the bench and watching those guys than he will in two weeks in Gwinnett. If he can continue to improve, there's not much of a reason he couldn't share time with Flowers in 2020 and with Contreras in 2021.
    Waters is intersting too. Would prefer a guy that projects to more power though.

    If they don't make additions they can expect the same 3-5 win improvement they saw last year. That makes the Braves a 75-78 win team.

    The FO that needlessly promoted him early knew what they were doing and are paid to do this. We aren't, so we can't know more than them. Correction....they used to be paid to do this...

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    Quote Originally Posted by clvclv View Post
    He'll learn a whole lot more in two weeks of sitting on the bench and watching those guys than he will in two weeks in Gwinnett.
    this probably isn't the case offensively
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    Quote Originally Posted by Super View Post
    this probably isn't the case offensively
    Plenty of time to work on his offense - two extra weeks with Flow and Mac will make him a much better defender and game-caller.

    I can't imagine the organization is terribly worried about having a backup Catcher with a big-time bat.
    Waters is intersting too. Would prefer a guy that projects to more power though.

    If they don't make additions they can expect the same 3-5 win improvement they saw last year. That makes the Braves a 75-78 win team.

    The FO that needlessly promoted him early knew what they were doing and are paid to do this. We aren't, so we can't know more than them. Correction....they used to be paid to do this...

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    Quote Originally Posted by clvclv View Post
    Don't think I'd declare them all "misses" just yet. DMGM and the Royals think they have something in Del Rosario, Soto will pass Maitan on the Angels' list this summer, and Gutierrez raked for the Phillies' GCL club when he finally got started there last summer and was 2 years younger than the typical GCL player.
    While it's still too early to completely write off anyone that young they would all slot in the back end of the Braves top 20 or worse.

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    Wait I thought Donaldson was just a hologram

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    Quote Originally Posted by UNCBlue012 View Post
    agree that 1-8 this is the OD batting order...maybe McCann instead of Late Bloomer...Acuna can run aggressively with the bottom half of the order up after him
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    Quote Originally Posted by drewdat View Post
    Wait I thought Donaldson was just a hologram
    I was starting to get some Dian Toscano vibes wondering if he was real

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    Any time you can give the most plate appearances on your team to a veteran player with one 100+ wRC season in his career, you've got to do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thewupk View Post
    While it's still too early to completely write off anyone that young they would all slot in the back end of the Braves top 20 or worse.
    That can be said for tons of prospects when trying to slot them in any of the Top 3-4 systems.

    Those guys (and I didn't even mention Severino - the Twins are pretty high on him) still are considered to have ceilings as regulars as is, and plenty of time to improve and make adjustments.

    The point is, it's still awfully early to hear the usual "those guys aren't Braves' prospects anymore, so they're likely a bunch of duds" narrative just yet.
    Waters is intersting too. Would prefer a guy that projects to more power though.

    If they don't make additions they can expect the same 3-5 win improvement they saw last year. That makes the Braves a 75-78 win team.

    The FO that needlessly promoted him early knew what they were doing and are paid to do this. We aren't, so we can't know more than them. Correction....they used to be paid to do this...

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    Quote Originally Posted by clvclv View Post
    The point is, it's still awfully early to hear the usual "those guys aren't Braves' prospects anymore, so they're likely a bunch of duds" narrative just yet.
    that's..not what's happening.
    very few of them have performed well. most of them have taken a hit, some a big hit, in prospect status by everyone, not just people here. it was supposed to be a great class and it's been incredibly underwhelming. this is more fact than opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CJ9 View Post
    Any time you can give the most plate appearances on your team to a veteran player with one 100+ wRC season in his career, you've got to do it.
    Leadoff should be a platoon. Inciarte against righties and Albies against lefties.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UNCBlue012 View Post
    This isn’t too bad vs RHP.

    Simply swap Albies and Ender in the lead off spot vs LHP for the first month or so and see how things shake out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Super View Post
    that's..not what's happening.
    very few of them have performed well. most of them have taken a hit, some a big hit, in prospect status by everyone, not just people here. it was supposed to be a great class and it's been incredibly underwhelming. this is more fact than opinion.
    True.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UNCBlue012 View Post
    I just don't understand why we'd want to put a guy capable of 35+ homers at leadoff. Not unless you actually believe that him hitting leadoff helped his production significantly.

    We need to have him in a spot where he'll come up with runners on more often.

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    Acuna at lead off works better if the pitcher isn’t hitting directly in front of him.

    Having said that, the Braves currently have 3 hitters worthy of being in the top half of a contending lineup, so some lesser hitter is going in the top half no matter what.

    In this scenario, I think a platoon with an expected .350 obp is preferable to a low ISO hitter in the 4 hole with a lot of solo HRs coming from Acuna
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