His pure stuff is better than 99% of relievers. Use Wagner, Percival, or Hoffman in replace of them if you wish. The injury risk is obviously inherent for any pitcher, but other than that, the is little reason to expect major decline within the next 4 years. Velocity is still elite, even if it's not quite as good as years past.
AA pretty much just shut down any rumors of Kimbrel coming to Atlanta, nice. Never made much sense.
Has there EVER been a statement and question a certain someone should absolutely never have made and asked publicly more than...
Kinda pathetic to see yourself as a message board knight in shining armor. How impotent does someone have to be in real life to resort to playing hero on a message board?
He may or may not be elite still... obviously very good, but I'm not thinking you followed his second half and playoff appearances. All the signals are there are that he is declining which makes sense given his age. He will be very good for a while still, but you can get basically his production for a quarter to half the price. He's not the same Kimbrel... its pretty obvious watching him lately.
The projections right now that I trust have him at 3/30. At that price point, I'd be comfortable I think. I said my max, coming into the offseason, would be 3/36. But given that a lot of teams could use him and that Boras is his agent, it is possible that he receives some sort of overpay.
I’d be pretty happy with Walker
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A half a season (really 1 month) is sign of decline? Main difference this season were walks were up, but otherwise still dominant. He still has the lowest BAA in the history if baseball with at least 400 innings pitched, and still posting historic K rates. His velocity was down this year, but that's after a year in which it was at an all time high.
I have no issue with people not wanting to throw 15-20 million per for a reliever while also giving up a pick. I do have an issue with people acting like he's isn't still the elite of the elite in terms of closers.
I'm as big a "homer" as exists, and am one of the select few who wouldn't mind spending on the back-end, but I'm not sure I even want any piece of Kimbrel given the fact he comes with the QO attached. Even if he was willing to give you a hometown discount to finish things up (let's dream that he'd take the same deal Britton or others are projected to get to come "home"), do you really want to give up a pick to get him considering our International penalties are about to kick in?
I realize they're not Craig, but is he really going to be THAT much better than Britton, Familia, Allen, Herrera, Miller, or Ottavino over the next 3 years?
(Especially when we've got all the SPs that could become really good back-end pieces AND Minter who likely just needs to be shown some faith.)
Last edited by clvclv; 11-07-2018 at 08:34 PM.
Has there EVER been a statement and question a certain someone should absolutely never have made and asked publicly more than...
Kinda pathetic to see yourself as a message board knight in shining armor. How impotent does someone have to be in real life to resort to playing hero on a message board?
clvclv (11-07-2018)
ESPN ticker said Harper turned down nats' 10 year 300 million offer
Jaw (11-07-2018)
Mariners finishing a trade of Mike Zunino for. . . Mallex Smith.
Go get him!
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The last 3 of the 4 seasons for Kimbrel reveal a guy with declining control. Only 1 season, 2017, revealed a guy that was still elite and the #1 reliever in the game.
Control would be what I worry about. I think he'd still be great but not as great.
Last edited by GeorgiaGirl; 11-07-2018 at 10:21 PM.
Aggression with prospects is fine, but being stupid is not. There should be a way to find a happy medium between a Pirates like idea of being overly cautious with prospects and going stupidly fast with prospects.