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    Brewers in talks with Kimbrel.

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    If they get Kimbrel they may be the favorites in the NL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hudson2 View Post
    If they get Kimbrel they may be the favorites in the NL.
    Still the Dodgers but that bullpen with Kimbrel is nasty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UNCBlue012 View Post
    Brewers in talks with Kimbrel.
    Did they keep their pen from last year intact?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heyward View Post
    Still the Dodgers but that bullpen with Kimbrel is nasty.
    Them adding Grandal is huge too. If Kershaw does have a shoulder issue going on then I’d give it to the Brewers if they get CK.

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    Astros signing Bregman for 6 years, 100 mil, covers this year, and 2 FA years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heyward View Post
    Astros signing Bregman for 6 years, 100 mil, covers this year, and 2 FA years.
    Here comes the Acuna extension.
    Has there EVER been a statement and question a certain someone should absolutely never have made and asked publicly more than...

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    Quote Originally Posted by DontStopTheChop View Post
    Maybe he’ll trade Fried and Newk for Bumgarner and redeem himself
    Man you guys are literally children.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    Even with all the injuries we are choosing between Teheran, Newk, Fried, Touki, Wilson and Wright. How does a Gio who has yet to pitch an inning this spring help.
    Ummm.... he's currently a better pitcher than all of the ones you listed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrazyTrain View Post
    Man you guys are literally children.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrazyTrain View Post
    Ummm.... he's currently a better pitcher than all of the ones you listed?
    Steamer projects Gio at 4.41 FIP in 2019 and Fried at 3.80 in 2019.

    Now that doesn't settle the argument. But what is your basis for saying Gio is better than Fried. Just curious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    Steamer projects Gio at 4.41 FIP in 2019 and Fried at 3.80 in 2019.

    Now that doesn't settle the argument. But what is your basis for saying Gio is better than Fried. Just curious.
    Someone threw out 4 War earlier at the high end of his "expected range" of performance... I'd say that's a few days on horseback from being realistic. Especially with a late start to the season.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    Steamer projects Gio at 4.41 FIP in 2019 and Fried at 3.80 in 2019.

    Now that doesn't settle the argument. But what is your basis for saying Gio is better than Fried. Just curious.
    Maybe because Fried has 9 total starts in the majors and it's a bit hard to project him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Super View Post
    probably not literally
    I've never seen such a group of dumbasses that just bring up random **** from so long ago to try and bait people into ruining the discussion.

    ****ing losers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    Steamer projects Gio at 4.41 FIP in 2019 and Fried at 3.80 in 2019.

    Now that doesn't settle the argument. But what is your basis for saying Gio is better than Fried. Just curious.

    I'm not sure Gio is the one that needs to be justified in that comparison.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrazyTrain View Post
    Maybe because Fried has 9 total starts in the majors and it's a bit hard to project him.
    With younger players, you lean on their minor league track record and pedigree. Minor league data btw are almost as useful as major league data for making projections once you properly adjust for level of play and age of the player relative to level. There is a reason for example that people had such high expectations for Acuna before he even had a single major league AB. Of course, projections sometimes are wrong. But the ones based on minor league data are not bad.

    So maybe there is a little bit more uncertainty about Fried than about Gio. But that is not the same as Gio projecting to be the better pitcher in 2019.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    With younger players, you lean on their minor league track record and pedigree. Minor league data btw are almost as useful as major league data for making projections once you properly adjust for level of play and age of the player relative to level. There is a reason for example that people had such high expectations for Acuna before he even had a single major league AB. Of course, projections sometimes are wrong. But the ones based on minor league data are not bad.

    So maybe there is a little bit more uncertainty about Fried than about Gio. But that is not the same as Gio projecting to be the better pitcher in 2019.
    Fried's minor league stats aren't very good....

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    In 2018 Fried put up a FIP of 3.56 in AAA in 66 innings and a FIP of 3.67 in the majors in 34 innings.

    Combine that with the strong spring he is having and I would say I like the under on the 3.80 FIP projection that Steamer has for him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrazyTrain View Post
    I've never seen such a group of dumbasses that just bring up random **** from so long ago to try and bait people into ruining the discussion.

    ****ing losers.
    still not literally children
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    I'm not big on spring training stats, but I do keep an eye on them and the strikeout to walk numbers of our starters this spring (except for Newk) are encouraging.

    Teheran 1 BB 16K
    Fried 5 and 16
    Wright 2 and 16
    Touki 2 and 17
    Wilson 2 and 13
    Newk 10 and 7
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