JohnAdcox (12-26-2018)
"Well, you’ll learn soon enough that this was a massive red wave landslide." - thethe on the 2020 election that trump lost bigly
“I can’t fix my life, but I can fix the world.” - sturg
Newcomb for Gallo (or Kepler)
Trade for Gray
Rotation of Folty, Gausman, Gray, Teheran, Fried (or Gohara or Soroka)
lots of ways to square this circle...AA has plenty of options...i hope he is patient and looks for value...i'm indifferent as to details as long as he makes good value deals
for those who want to keep Newcomb, we can put together other packages involving one or more of Wright, Teheran, Fried, Wilson, Touki, Wentz and Muller...i would try to hold on to Gohara, Soroka and Anderson
Last edited by nsacpi; 12-26-2018 at 02:22 PM.
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jpx7 (12-26-2018)
I'd do Newcomb for Gallo and I think the Rangers would too (depending on their opinion of Newcomb obviously)... pick up Gray for cheap (maybe we can even get Frazier in the deal keeping it rather cheap giving us another option/young OF talent)... then trade Riley and a couple other good prospects for JTR... love that team
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"Well, you’ll learn soon enough that this was a massive red wave landslide." - thethe on the 2020 election that trump lost bigly
“I can’t fix my life, but I can fix the world.” - sturg
clvclv (12-27-2018)
Well that proposed package was ludicrous... and Gallo will be much more than 5-10 homers... he's hit 40 two years in a row. Pederson has never hit more than 26
Do you realize how special a ~.300 ISO is in the majors? And he's only 25 and has only experienced one organizational staff... even a tiny tweak could change him tremendously.
Also, he's basically the same solid player against lefties or righties... Joc couldn't hit a lefty if his life depended on it...
Last edited by zbhargrove; 12-26-2018 at 03:15 PM.
Players generally enter a decline phase when they get to Necks age. Just looking at his numbers with the Braves.
2015: 106 WRC+
2016: 98 WRC+
2017: 93 WRC+
2018 2nd half: 88 WRC+
There is a pattern here. One in which his 2018 1st half should be completely dismissed.
If I had to guess I would suspect he puts up a WRC+ in the mid 90s in 2018. He's a well below average player at this point.
"Well, you’ll learn soon enough that this was a massive red wave landslide." - thethe on the 2020 election that trump lost bigly
“I can’t fix my life, but I can fix the world.” - sturg
Gallo is anything but a one tool player. People have severe misconceptions about his outfield defense. He is perfectly average out there with a plus plus arm that probably makes his defense slightly above average.
As far as Newcomb for Gallo goes, I think we'd have to add a little bit more on top of it, but I'd be down for a deal like that.
Plus Gallo has FOUR years of control compared to only two for Pederson. Obviously that means that he'll cost more, but if we want a long term solution it'd probably be worth it for Gallo. Maybe we like our internal outfield options long term and only want to pay for two years. That'd be a reasonable path as well, in which case Peralta or Pederson would make more sense.
jpx7 (12-26-2018)
I'd be up for Gallo. Hit him 5th or 6th and we've got a lot of pop in the lineup.
I don't know that I could stomach Gallo. 60% of his ABs end in K, BB, or homerun with more than half of those being K (k'd at a greater and 1 out of 3 rate).