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    Quote Originally Posted by Heyward View Post
    I mean JD starting and Camargo to the bench does upgrade the roster but i agree i have a hard time thinking thats all we do this winter.

    They'd be better but not sure how much. Need JTR or a top end outfielder not named Harper (Pollock, Peralta, etc)
    JD is a major upgrade at 3b (assuming healthy). Camargo is a major upgrade to the bench. Adding Donaldson could possibly give us 3 of the best hitters in the east. C+ or D grade sounds like an irrational grade. I don't think we're done regardless

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    JD is a major upgrade at 3b (assuming healthy). Camargo is a major upgrade to the bench. Adding Donaldson could possibly give us 3 of the best hitters in the east. C+ or D grade sounds like an irrational grade. I don't think we're done regardless
    We're really not upgrading catcher as things stand now, and the outfield situation remains a question as does the pen/rotation.

    But i agree i dont think those are the only two moves we'll make.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Markakis
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    I’ll guess Markakis, Pollock, and Peralta.

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    Only 3 OFers via trade or FA that is right for our roster? Markakis I’m afraid is one of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    I’ll guess Markakis, Pollock, and Peralta.
    Exactly my guesses too
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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    JD is a major upgrade at 3b (assuming healthy). Camargo is a major upgrade to the bench. Adding Donaldson could possibly give us 3 of the best hitters in the east. C+ or D grade sounds like an irrational grade. I don't think we're done regardless
    By definition, C is average.

    Adding JD when they already have Camargo, bringing back Markakis, and downgrading to Mac at catcher when they had something like $40M in payroll available and a top farm system is a below average off season for a contending team.

    The upgrade at 3B barely covers the downgrade at C and cOF...for $40M...

    D+/C- is a below average grade.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hudson2 View Post
    Only 3 OFers via trade or FA that is right for our roster? Markakis I’m afraid is one of them.
    As long as he’s #3 on the list I have no problem with him being the contingency plan.

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    with JD at third and Camargo on the bench, we stop giving ABs to guys like Flaherty, Adams and Tucker

    And fewer ABs to Culberson, who is likely to regress

    When you look at it that way it becomes clear signing JD was a very good move. The price was good too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    I’ll guess Markakis, Pollock, and Peralta.
    I'd we can get realmuto, I'm fine with markakis. My preference is pollock though to let our farm guys progress 1 more year and see what we have

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    Quote Originally Posted by VirginiaBrave View Post
    I have said all offseason give me Harper and Kimbrel and let's go to work. I get Donaldson but we didn't have a need at third. Riley is probably going to end up the next Jermaine Dye. I personally can't stand Harper but this is once in a lifetime opportunity like Maddux and Bonds were in 1993. Harper has 5-10 yrs left easy and would put us in the WS conversation easy.
    It’s nice to dream big, but with the contract demands those two have, signing both is completely unrealistic.
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    I think we are going to be very happy we didnt trade our prospects. Sometimes its the moves you dont make.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    with JD at third and Camargo on the bench, we stop giving ABs to guys like Flaherty, Adams and Tucker

    And fewer ABs to Culberson, who is likely to regress

    When you look at it that way it becomes clear signing JD was a very good move. The price was good too.
    Sure it was, but they also downgraded at C and cOF if they being back Markakis.

    $40M and a boatload of prospects should have resulted in 5-6 wins of projected improvement this offseason. Any less is a below average effort.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    I'd we can get realmuto, I'm fine with markakis. My preference is pollock though to let our farm guys progress 1 more year and see what we have
    Getting Pollock on a bargain contract and trading for JTR for good value in addition to the JD contract would represent an A off season. Dumping Duvall and picking up a LHH 4th OFer would push it to an A+ for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    Getting Pollock on a bargain contract and trading for JTR for good value in addition to the JD contract would represent an A off season. Dumping Duvall and picking up a LHH 4th OFer would push it to an A+ for me.
    Pollock + realmuto + markakis/cargo?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    Its far more likely that AA is waiting for bargains, and those bargains won’t be available until the big dominos fall.

    There was a small chance of getting Harper, but that pretty much went out the window when they gave JD $23M.
    Could be trying to trade JT to free up some extra cash.....

    I doubt it, but it's plausible if Olney is correct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carp View Post
    Could be trying to trade JT to free up some extra cash.....

    I doubt it, but it's plausible if Olney is correct.
    How about winkler for Julio as the base of a trade with reds?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    By definition, C is average.

    Adding JD when they already have Camargo, bringing back Markakis, and downgrading to Mac at catcher when they had something like $40M in payroll available and a top farm system is a below average off season for a contending team.

    The upgrade at 3B barely covers the downgrade at C and cOF...for $40M...

    D+/C- is a below average grade.
    Well again, if the plan is to have Camargo play a lot of games in LF, then it likely would not be a downgrade, and potentially could be an upgrade at 2 starting positions.

    That's a risky play if we go with that option though since someone will likely get hurt and miss a significant amount of time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrimsonCowboy View Post
    I think a LHH OF is a better fit for our roster with Duvall, Camargo, Culberson, and maybe Riley seeing some corner OF ABs already. Markakis is surely one of the 3, and CarGo is probably another in my view. As far the 3rd via the trade market, I'll guess someone along the lines of Nomar Mazara or Scott Schebler.

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