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    Quote Originally Posted by MadduxFanII View Post
    Guess their rebuild is on hold?

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    3 years 21M...very good signing for the Dbacks
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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    3 years 21M...very good signing for the Dbacks
    Very reasonable price. Could easily be moved mid-season if everything falls apart and gives the Diamondbacks a back-up plan at a number of positions if guys leave through free agency/trade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 50PoundHead View Post
    Very reasonable price. Could easily be moved mid-season if everything falls apart and gives the Diamondbacks a back-up plan at a number of positions if guys leave through free agency/trade.
    makes me think Peralta is unlikely to be available at a reasonable price
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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    makes me think Peralta is unlikely to be available at a reasonable price
    Likely true. Escobar gives them insurance more in the case of Pollock leaving than in anything they might do with Peralta. Funny thing about Escobar is that when the Twins acquired him from the White Sox way back when, he was viewed as a glove-first SS. Turned out he wasn't a very good SS, but developed into a decent hitter who could play all over the diamond. Needless to say, James Taylor's Walking Man isn't his favorite song.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    makes me think Peralta is unlikely to be available at a reasonable price
    Does this make Lamb expendable? Not sure we'd want or need him anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NYCBrave View Post
    Does this make Lamb expendable? Not sure we'd want or need him anyway.
    he's an option...I'd prefer a more versatile utility player like Marwin Gonzalez
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    Quote Originally Posted by NYCBrave View Post
    Does this make Lamb expendable? Not sure we'd want or need him anyway.
    He is due a little over $4m this coming season. I'd rather stick with Camargo
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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    makes me think Peralta is unlikely to be available at a reasonable price
    I mean as currently constructed, they are still a solid team with a decent shot at the playoffs next year. So trying to go for it while you still have good players in their prime is admirable, even if short sighted.

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    I would much rather stick with camargo

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    3 years 21M...very good signing for the Dbacks
    Not a good signing for my fantasy team unfortunately.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carp View Post
    I mean as currently constructed, they are still a solid team with a decent shot at the playoffs next year. So trying to go for it while you still have good players in their prime is admirable, even if short sighted.
    This is what most organizations should default towards.

    Forgoing even a chance at a wild card season to rebuild shouldn’t be what teams with reasonable means should aspire to.

    If you have limited resources then you have to do what you have to do. But those teams are playing a different sport really.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 50PoundHead View Post
    Likely true. Escobar gives them insurance more in the case of Pollock leaving than in anything they might do with Peralta. Funny thing about Escobar is that when the Twins acquired him from the White Sox way back when, he was viewed as a glove-first SS. Turned out he wasn't a very good SS, but developed into a decent hitter who could play all over the diamond. Needless to say, James Taylor's Walking Man isn't his favorite song.
    That’s no one’s favorite song.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carp View Post
    I mean as currently constructed, they are still a solid team with a decent shot at the playoffs next year. So trying to go for it while you still have good players in their prime is admirable, even if short sighted.
    The problem is, they're about to lose their ace. And only have Goldy for one more year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    makes me think Peralta is unlikely to be available at a reasonable price
    Quite possibly - but the good thing about this signing is it likely keeps Marwin's asking price from going through the roof. He obviously becomes the best super-utility option left on the free-agent market, but how much more than Escobar's AAV (or length of commitment) can he realistically ask for?
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    Quote Originally Posted by NYCBrave View Post
    Does this make Lamb expendable? Not sure we'd want or need him anyway.
    No interest at all in Lamb personally, but you'd think this makes him "available" anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by clvclv View Post
    Quite possibly - but the good thing about this signing is it likely keeps Marwin's asking price from going through the roof. He obviously becomes the best super-utility option left on the free-agent market, but how much more than Escobar's AAV can he realistically ask for?
    Escobar chose not to explore the market. I'm not sure this sets the market for anyone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    Escobar chose not to explore the market. I'm not sure this sets the market for anyone.
    Not sure that it "sets the market", but it has to help from the teams' perspective. Is there really much of an argument that Marwin's reps can make that he deserves $4-$5 million per more coming off a much weaker platform year?

    I'd hope that this at least puts Gonzalez squarely in that 3/$30 million range on the high end - which also ought to make him a realistic target for AA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    he's an option...I'd prefer a more versatile utility player like Marwin Gonzalez
    The more I look at Gonzalez the more I like him. Depending on price, I'd like to scoop him up early in the process to add depth while we negotiate deals later in the offseason.

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