Has there EVER been a statement and question a certain someone should absolutely never have made and asked publicly more than...
Kinda pathetic to see yourself as a message board knight in shining armor. How impotent does someone have to be in real life to resort to playing hero on a message board?
Has there EVER been a statement and question a certain someone should absolutely never have made and asked publicly more than...
Kinda pathetic to see yourself as a message board knight in shining armor. How impotent does someone have to be in real life to resort to playing hero on a message board?
After reading AA's comments on Russell Martin after the signing in reference to how pitch framing makes 12 other players on the roster better I don't see us going after a catcher who does not excel here. Grandal still makes the most sense
JohnAdcox (10-18-2018)
Huh? Those names have been thrown around here for months...
Or are you somehow claiming to be the originator of those "ideas", as if nobody else knew Cutch would be a FA and Gardner might be the odd man out once they got Stanton?
As usual, your thought process is stuck in the mud spinning its wheels.
It is worth noting that Maldonado is another very good pitch framer who will be available.
While Ramos isn't a great framer, he is better than Suzuki, which would represent an overall upgrade at the position.
I agree that Grandal should be FA priority #1 though, and I'm sure the Braves will be heavily connected to him until the day he signs.
we've talked about happ from the cubs as a target, but what about schwarber? he improved his defense in LF after slimming down quite a bit. i'm a believer in his bat. i suppose the same fear with pederson applies to schwarber: he may be unplayable vs. lefties (85 wRC+ vs. them this year).
Enscheff, what're you thoughts on a Newcomb for Happ deal, were it available?
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Grandal would be great but he will be too expensive. My guess is he will get a 5/90 deal. You are bidding against too many teams to get him at a value price.
Wasn’t there a rumor at the deadline that Giants might rebuild and trade Posey? He is owed less than 70 million over the next three years.
UNCBlue012 (10-18-2018)
You are quite possibly correct. The Braves may not be willing to outbid every other team for an aging catcher. If the Dodgers want him, they will sign him.
Just a guess, but I think the fact they already extended Flowers means they are thinking more along the lines of someone like Maldonado than Grandal.
I'm still holding out hope or Grandal though because I'm an irrational fan.
If the Giants rebuild, Brandon Belt might be one to consider. He's been mainly a first baseman, but has also played a passable left field over the years. His hitting stats have undoubtedly been depressed by the hitting environment he's played in. Peralta, who I also like as a trade possibility, has had his hitting stats inflated by his home field environment. Things to keep in mind.
Belt's contract calls for $16M for each of the next 3 years, his ages 31-33 season. It is the kind of contract that implies minimal expected surplus value. Which for me is an attractive thing because it implies we would not have to trade a premium prospect for him. He would be pretty much a salary dump for the Giants. If we can get Pollock (another one whose hitting stats are inflated by his home environment) for $16M/3 years, he would be preferable. But both the AAV and years might end up higher. In which case Belt would be a good alternative.
Belt and Pollock would both be 31 next season. Brantley would be 32. Peralta would be 31 for most of the season.
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Jaw (10-19-2018)
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I think an NL team has to get some offense from the catcher position. With the luxury of the DH an American League team can get away with starting a weak hitting catcher.
The downside of signing a bat first catcher is that he is only going to play around 130 games a year.
The Braves catching platoon the past two years is probably the best model for how fill the position.
Jaw (10-19-2018)
Much like I didnt mind the idea of creating surplus in the infield, I could make the case for acquiring two starting caliber OF.
One likely would be a LHH that would play everyday with decent splits bs RHP.
The other would Likely be RH that wears out LHP.
Pushes Inciarte to 4th OF or platoon. His extension makes that less than ideal at some point but just have to bear that.
Brantley is kind of my preference for every day LH over Pollock though the argument for either is apparent.
Not sure who my RH bat is. Can’t be too hard to find though.
Maybe Broxton has a decent split there?
I think a pitching coach that instills a sound pitching philosophy maybe more important than catcher. Maybe I’m blowing this up but it seemed to me that so many of the Braves walks came when the pitchers would throw two good fastballs to get ahead then throw four straight balls trying to nibble at the corners. The Braves pitchers seemed to pitch scared at times and lacked a good plan on how to attack hitters.
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