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    Pache is about 21 and has sniffed aa. I don’t know why ppl keep pushing him. Let him spend a full year at aa and aaa.

    Ideally he does great and you trade two years of ender at 17 million total for years 22-28 of Pache.

    1.5 years away at least imo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Russ2dollas View Post
    Pache is about 21 and has sniffed aa. I don’t know why ppl keep pushing him. Let him spend a full year at aa and aaa.

    Ideally he does great and you trade two years of ender at 17 million total for years 22-28 of Pache.

    1.5 years away at least imo
    I think everyone wants the best talent around the young core now. But I agree. Let the kid develop and hopefully we have another future star.
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    I stumbled onto mlb.com and saw Paddack having a tremendous spring and just reminded me of how stupid the fish are. They traded this kid for 67 year old Rodney. I remember wanting to trade viz for this guy. I can’t remember if we had grilled cheese then. But I would have given most any guy on our team back then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Russ2dollas View Post
    Pache is about 21 and has sniffed aa. I don’t know why ppl keep pushing him. Let him spend a full year at aa and aaa.

    Ideally he does great and you trade two years of ender at 17 million total for years 22-28 of Pache.

    1.5 years away at least imo
    Pache is 1 year and a few weeks away. He won't be held in the minors for half of the '20 season. Just long enough to gain an extra year of control like Acuna.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pacheaholic View Post
    Pache is 1 year and a few weeks away. He won't be held in the minors for half of the '20 season. Just long enough to gain an extra year of control like Acuna.
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    the only thing that bothers me about Pache is he isnt a Golden Wren
    "I am a victim, I will tell you. I am a victim."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pacheaholic View Post
    Pache is 1 year and a few weeks away. He won't be held in the minors for half of the '20 season. Just long enough to gain an extra year of control like Acuna.
    Pache isn’t acuna

    He’s never been close to the prospect. I think we rushed dansby and it hurt.

    Most people, even top 50 prospects, should not be in mlb at 21-22.

    Can he have one season where he looks like a plus hitter in the minors first?

    I’d rather have another year of inciarte production than a year of Pache producing line inciarte. If you are a believer in the power I’d rather have that age 27 or 28 year of control

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    Vlad JR goes down with oblique strain...now the jays can stop having to answer questions about service time and use that as the excuse
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    Julio is bad at baseball

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    Quote Originally Posted by UNCBlue012 View Post
    Julio is bad at baseball
    we know

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    Quote Originally Posted by UNCBlue012 View Post
    Julio is bad at baseball
    Not so terrible today. 4IP 3H 1ER 6K. Obviously not seeing his stuff live, but a good line nonetheless.
    Last edited by jpack1; 03-10-2019 at 02:37 PM.

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    Now Allard. Yeah. He’s bad at baseball

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    Quote Originally Posted by jpack1 View Post
    Now Allard. Yeah. He’s bad at baseball
    He just knows how to get hitters out....at AAA

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    Quote Originally Posted by jpack1 View Post
    Now Allard. Yeah. He’s bad at baseball
    truth

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    Quote Originally Posted by thewupk View Post
    He just knows how to get hitters out....at AAA
    Correct. He’s bad at MLB.

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    I know it’s Spring Training, but Pache would be a top-5 most valuable player in baseball if he can learn to be an average hitter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UNCBlue012 View Post
    I know it’s Spring Training, but Pache would be a top-5 most valuable player in baseball if he can learn to be an average hitter.
    Hyperbole much?

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    Quote Originally Posted by UNCBlue012 View Post
    I know it’s Spring Training, but Pache would be a top-5 most valuable player in baseball if he can learn to be an average hitter.
    He would a very *good* player, but this is grossly overvaluing the value of defense.

    Kevin Kermaier and Ender Inciarte are two elite defensive center fielders who have hovered around league average with the bat and they are in the 3-5 WAR range. We would be so fortunate for Pache to grade out as well as KK.

    Pache would need to make that jump to the 120 wRC range to become an elite player. If he could get to 130-140 wRC then he could become a top 5 MLB type player.

    I think average bat is a likely optimistic outcome with 120 as a high case outcome if he learns plate discipline. It would take a massive approach and swing change to reach that 130-140 plateau.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chop2chip View Post
    He would a very *good* player, but this is grossly overvaluing the value of defense.

    Kevin Kermaier and Ender Inciarte are two elite defensive center fielders who have hovered around league average with the bat and they are in the 3-5 WAR range. We would be so fortunate for Pache to grade out as well as KK.

    Pache would need to make that jump to the 120 wRC range to become an elite player. If he could get to 130-140 wRC then he could become a top 5 MLB type player.

    I think average bat is a likely optimistic outcome with 120 as a high case outcome if he learns plate discipline. It would take a massive approach and swing change to reach that 130-140 plateau.
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