2018 Offseason And Targets

[Chico]

Pretty much what we figured all along, and the final package from the Phils lines up with that almost perfectly.

It is curious to note the Braves deemed Riley expendable, but didn't want to part with any pitchers of consequence.

I think AA has beaten himself up over the years for trading Syndegard.

[sturg33]

Pretty boring off-season after all the hype.

I don't think our pitching prospects holds as much value as we'd like

[Buzzworm]

It’s pretty clear we blew our load early on JD and didn’t anticipate the market being so soft.I really believe if we would have waited a bit on signing JD we could have gotten him for less then we did.
Which maybe didn’t matter anyways since I saw a report today that we are about 10 million less in payroll then last season.
It’s pretty clear we are broke for some odd reason even though the Braves made more money this season then last.Weird huh?

[CrazyTrain]

Pretty boring off-season after all the hype.

I don't think our pitching prospects holds as much value as we'd like

I think some of them hold a lot of value, but it doesn't matter if we aren't willing to trade them.

[UNCBlue012]

Bowman: Regarding Realmuto, the Braves made it clear each of their prospects were available. The Marlins' primary interest was Austin Riley. Atlanta was willing to include multiple prospects, but backed away when the volume of the ask exceeded their comfort level.

[striker42]

I don't think we had as much money available as some reports said. But I also think we have to still be sitting on a decent amount. AA's been very lackluster.

[clvclv]

It is worth repeating that AA has spent 30M to acquire 6 expected wins this off-season. $5M per expected win.

Without losing a prospect. Without losing a draft pick. While potentially picking up a draft pick in next year's draft.

Which is all impressive - no one's questioned that.

He also has turned last year's division champion into the third best team in the division on paper.

Keep kicking the can down the road until all the kids blow their arms out and he can at least be happy that all his moves were solid value-wise while watching celebrations in the Gnats' and Phillies' locker rooms in September.

[Southcack77]

It is worth repeating that AA has spent 30M to acquire 6 expected wins this off-season. $5M per expected win.

Without losing a prospect. Without losing a draft pick. While potentially picking up a draft pick in next year's draft.

Always devil's advocate, worth mentioning our payroll is arguably lower than it was last opening day.

[Hudson2]

I don’t wanna be a Debbie downer but the Phils, Nats, and Mets have gotten better and we added JD and downgraded COF and C. How did this happen? If Donaldson goes down then we are basically sunk bc we put all of our eggs in his basket. The Nats underperformed last year and I don’t see that happening 2 years in a row. Honestly I could see the Mets being better than us with us tying the Phils for 3rd place and getting to about 85 wins.

[Super]

I don’t wanna be a Debbie downer but the Phils, Nats, and Mets have gotten better and we added JD and downgraded COF and C. How did this happen? If Donaldson goes down then we are basically sunk bc we put all of our eggs in his basket. The Nats underperformed last year and I don’t see that happening 2 years in a row. Honestly I could see the Mets being better than us with us tying the Phils for 3rd place and getting to about 85 wins.

i don't think we downgraded catcher when it's all said and done. JMO

[Super]

I don't think our pitching prospects holds as much value as we'd like

i don't see how that's the case at all

[Enscheff]

Bowman: Regarding Realmuto, the Braves made it clear each of their prospects were available. The Marlins' primary interest was Austin Riley. Atlanta was willing to include multiple prospects, but backed away when the volume of the ask exceeded their comfort level.

See, this kind of thing pisses me off.

If JTR is not a Brave because AA didn't want to give up Riley plus Anderson, fine. That's a defensible move.

However, if JTR is not a Brave because AA didn't want to toss in 1-2 guys equivalent to Will Stewart...that is inexcusable.

[thewupk]

Which is all impressive - no one's questioned that.

He also has turned last year's division champion into the third best team in the division on paper.

Keep kicking the can down the road until all the kids blow their arms out and he can at least be happy that all his moves were solid value-wise while watching celebrations in the Gnats' and Phillies' locker rooms in September.

I think he improved our baseline in wins. Literally every other team besides the Marlins are trying to for it. Like 90% of moves in the NL are from teams in the East.

[thewupk]

i don't think we downgraded catcher when it's all said and done. JMO

This will depend primarily on flowers. How healthy will he be and will his hitting decline again.

[Chico]

I like the JD signing. I just was not aware it would be all we would do this offseason.

Maybe I'll change my mind come spring, but I've definitely lost some of the exhuberance I had looking forward to the upcoming season.

[TheRunningAgent]

See, this kind of thing pisses me off.

If JTR is not a Brave because AA didn't want to give up Riley plus Anderson, fine. That's a defensible move.

However, if JTR is not a Brave because AA didn't want to toss in 1-2 guys equivalent to Will Stewart...that is inexcusable.

I wouldn’t trust much of what he writes here. We never knew what was going on from the beginning based on our writers. I’m gonna trust AA on this one. Here’s what I know. We won the division. We have added some pieces, so far. We still have ALL our kids.

[Hudson2]

i don't think we downgraded catcher when it's all said and done. JMO

Mac hit .212 and only played in 63 games last year. I’d take Suzuki over Mac any day and Suzuki was worth double the WAR. We definitely downgraded there.

[thewupk]

Mac hit .212 and only played in 63 games last year. I’d take Suzuki over Mac any day and Suzuki was with double the WAR. We definitely downgraded there.

Need to factor in framing too

[nsacpi]

Always devil's advocate, worth mentioning our payroll is arguably lower than it was last opening day.

I think it is slightly higher at this point. There are various ways of estimating payrolls (some include pro-rated bonuses, salaries of guys on the 40 man but not 25 man, etc). So make sure it is an apples to apples comparison.

I would also make the point that every team has the option of moving forward wins from future seasons by trading prospects for major league talent. I would argue that the extent to which we choose to do that should not be overly influenced by what the other teams in our division are doing. Rather it should mainly be based on what I call the value proposition. If we focus relentlessly on value (and AA seems to be doing that) everything else will take care of itself.

[Super]

Mac hit .212 and only played in 63 games last year. I’d take Suzuki over Mac any day and Suzuki was with double the WAR. We definitely downgraded there.

McCann is a better framer/defender. health is his risk, but he'll platoon, and be an actual platoon advantage. instead of 2 RHH.