If you're right about the Braves not having $60 to spend this winter, maybe you're the idiot.Originally Posted by Enscheff
Pretty sure they can handle 60 bucks.
If you're right about the Braves not having $60 to spend this winter, maybe you're the idiot.
Pretty sure they can handle 60 bucks.
Has there EVER been a statement and question a certain someone should absolutely never have made and asked publicly more than...
Kinda pathetic to see yourself as a message board knight in shining armor. How impotent does someone have to be in real life to resort to playing hero on a message board?
Bowman was also asked to name someone the Braves could go after that isn’t a well known target at this point. He mentioned Starling Marte.
Dealing Marte would be pretty dumb right after the Pirates went all in with the Archer trade, but if he’s available, I think he’s a perfect fit.
clvclv (10-23-2018)
Marte is one of my favorite targets. I mentioned him a while back as somebody I’d be after.
clvclv (10-24-2018), UNCBlue012 (10-24-2018)
I wonder what Whit Merrifield would cost. If the cost isn't crushing (something like one good prospect and one that is mid-tierish) then I'd take him as the new OF'er and a leadoff guy that can move Acuna out of leadoff (although I'd prefer just to #2).
Aggression with prospects is fine, but being stupid is not. There should be a way to find a happy medium between a Pirates like idea of being overly cautious with prospects and going stupidly fast with prospects.
I’d love him. He is a quality starter and really allows for creative depth moves.DOB said on Twitter we asked for him this summer and Royals didn’t want to move him FWIW.
clvclv (10-24-2018)
I'd think the problem with Merrifield would be that AA might not be able to get him with "just arms". DMGM went nuts in June drafting college arms to try to fast-track. If they think Singer, Kowar, and Daniel Lynch are going to move relatively quickly, you'd probably have to include a more "elite" arm (Anderson?), and I'm sure they'd want to talk about Riley or Pache.
Is Merrifield worth two of those names (if they'd even be considerations)? Not for me, but the value charts may tell a different story.
Has there EVER been a statement and question a certain someone should absolutely never have made and asked publicly more than...
Kinda pathetic to see yourself as a message board knight in shining armor. How impotent does someone have to be in real life to resort to playing hero on a message board?
He's an interesting one. If I'm reading this right, hes not even arb elgiible until 2020, so he's under team control for another 4 years. That being said, next year is his age 30 season, he was a serious late bloomer. He put up a 5.5 WAR last year so he won't be cheap, but age might bring the cost down a bit. To a rebuilding team like the Royals who isn't even close to their contention window, the longer they hold him the less value he has.
I've thought about Merrifield as well. With the Dogers and Red Sox being so deep and more talk about depth in general I could see us going after guys who can play multiple positions to give us options for future dealings.
We talked about Merrifield several weeks ago.
If the Royals value him dearly, I would pass, but if he’s obtainable for something more in line with him merely being an above average starter entering his decline then I’d do it.
The Pirates can be unpredictable and are always trying to save a buck, but I don't see thie one happening. After trading away Meadows and Polanco having surgery recently and expected to miss some of the season their usual depth is not there.
Not against the Marte idea, still dont think JT Realmuto is needed
Catcher needs to be upgraded this winter big-time.
From Kileys chat today- Mentions Realmuto as a possible big acquisition for us. Independent of that mentioned that he wouldn’t be surprised at all if Newcomb is dangled in trades.
I’m personally skeptical and surprised by the amount of times Realmuto has been mentioned as a trade target for us. I’m more than ok dangling Newk as a big piece of a trade though.
Why is everyone so willing to trade Newk? He is the kind of pitcher that can get hot and dominate in the playoffs. Isnt that what we need?
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I'm at work so I can't access Twitter, but I recall DOB recently tweeting that the Braves asked about Merrifield at the deadline and found the price way too steep.
jpx7 (10-24-2018)
He also said this, i would do this tbh.
Kiley McDaniel: 1yr $12M on Bumgarner. Allard/Wentz/Muller are right in that range on a 1-for-1.
jpx7 (10-24-2018)
lol
Because he's a stuff #4, and those guys tend to hold their trade value as other teams continue to think "what if?" with hopes they can fix him. He is valuable, and the Braves will need to trade away valuable assets to get the kind of upgrades they need.
He is just as likely to blow up and lose a game as he is to "get hot and dominate in the playoffs".
UNCBlue012 (10-24-2018)
He also said this:
Kiley McDaniel: Goldschmidt is 31, has 1 year left at $14.5M and his last three years have been 5.0, 5.2, 5.1 WAR (with a 7.2 right behind that)
Kiley McDaniel: if he’s open market for only one year deals, he would get like about $30M
Kiley McDaniel: so that’s $16M in surplus value, maybe a little more since competing teams could see him as the missing piece
If he thinks Goldy at $14.5M only has $16M in surplus value, he is pretty wrong about his player valuations.
Goldy likely projects as a 4-5 win player next year, and will be worth $40M+ for that single season.
as always, I'm perfectly happy trading Allard. He's got a tough path forward and he's in the middle of the big scrum.
I'd think a little harder about Wentz and Muller. They are maybe two years behind the rest, and left handed, and maybe higher upside. For just one year of Bumgarner. I think you probably still do it though. I think one of them would be plenty.
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