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    How much do conservatives hate POTUS?

    So ever since Obama was sworn into office, the Republicans have basically said we're not going to help him right this ship at all at any cost. Their Leader in the Senate basically came out and said his job was to make POTUS a 1-term President for the history books. Speaker Boehner since taking the gavel, has publicly said he wants to make a deal but then a certain faction of his party gets into his head and then all of the sudden he's the great conservative fighter from Ohio.

    Now in the midst of this, I've seen plenty of conservatives on social media and in Congress repeat the phrase "It has nothing to do with his skin color, we just strongly disagree with his policies".

    Policies that previous Presidents have sworn by yet they were not called socialists (Modern Day Conservative translation: Communist Dictator) and disrespected. When Eisenhower or Reagan called to protect social security and medicare, they were not called socialist/communist dictators. Don't recall Bush 43 being called that either after Medicare Part D. This is not an argument on race. If some of you think I'm playing the race card I'm not, but if you think there's a bit of legitimacy to it, then feel free to engage and discuss.

    As much of a dislike I had for Bush 43 during his tenure in office, I never wished ill-will upon him. Yeah there were uneducated Liberals who said "F--- Bush" and all that stuff. If our biggest enemies (China/Russia/Al Aqaeda) ever did any physical harm to him, I would be sad for our country and I would also be sad on his behalf.

    However I get the strong feeling, reading conservative blogs, websites, and facebook groups, that if Obama 44 were to be assassinated tomorrow, that there'd be a pretty big private celebration by many in our country. I don't think someone like weso or sturg would do backflips, but there are sick conservatives out there who I think would publicly (whether they be celebrity like Rushbo or just your average conservative Joe on facebook) celebrate and cheer for Obama's death. I mean most of the sad albeit hilarious stuff about Obama firing generals so he can hire generals that would attack us, Obama is using Obamacare to get all of our personal information (as if he couldn't just ask the CIA or NSA to do it for him), etc to portray him as this second coming of Hitler... it's just sad. I see a fake story on Obama every 15 minutes on Facebook, some new conspiracy theory (like him staging Newtown Shootings to enact Gun Control), and then I click the image and read the comments posted. They're so hateful, they're so ridiculous it makes me sad to know people believe in it, then it makes me even more sad when I see 80-100 people like the comment like "Get this god hating muslim dictator tyrant out of our office and put a real american in there!!" That 80-100 people can only in estimation represent a bigger demographic that's no longer just a radical fringe, but a mainstream ideology.

    I don't think a portion of our country would rally together and say "You killed our President, now we're coming after you.", instead they'd probably say "Thank you for doing us a favor".

    The hate or "dislike" for this POTUS is unmatched in modern times. Bush was called an idiot, but let's face it he wasn't the sharpest tool in the shed. He had his awkward and WTF were you thinking moments. Obama is a complete 180. Even when he doesn't have the real answer, he generally remains level-headed and gives a BS answer under cool.

    The fact that POTUS is basically being blamed for EVERYTHING under the Sun by the right. I mean Abu Ghirab was terrible terrible terrible. I never blamed Bush for it. I could blame Rumsfeld more than anything, but I doubt if Bush knew this was going on he'd let it continue. He's not THAT stupid. I can't blame Obama for everything Holder does, for everything that happened in Benghazi, for all the NSA stuff. I didn't pin the blame on Bush for everything that happened terribly within his administration that Cheney was responsible for, but I see BO 44 doesn't get that same slack.
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    Last few years it's basically been this.

    Obama: Let's reform healthcare.
    GOP: WHAT ABOUT THE JOBS WHERE ARE THE JOBS?!!?

    Obama: Let's focus on a jobs bill.
    GOP: WHAT DID YOU KNOW ABOUT BENGHAZI!?!?

    Obama: Let's discuss immigration reform.
    GOP: WHY ARE YOU SPYING ON OUR ALLIES, TERRIBLE PRESIDENT!

    Obama: Let's repeal Don't Ask Don't Tell
    GOP: YOU ARE GOING TO RAISE TAXES ON ALL OF US.

    Obama: Let's talk Grand Bargain.
    GOP: WHERE ARE THE JOBS!! JOBS! JOBS! JOBS!

    Obama: Ok let's talk jobs bill again.
    GOP: WHY ARE YOU TRYING TO TAKE OUR GUNS AWAY.
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    Why do conservatives dislike Obama? Tons of reasons - I saw this online the other day and it made me chuckle. But unfortunately, it's pretty accurate

    Bob: "Hey Jim, did you hear about the Obama administration scandal?,

    Jim: "You mean the Mexican gun running?"

    Bob: "No, the other one."

    Jim: "You mean SEAL Team 6?"

    Bob: "No, the other one."

    Jim: "Obama saying the avg family would save $2,500 on their premiums?"

    Bob: "No, the other one."

    Jim: "Forcing businesses to violate their religious beliefs by paying for drugs that abort the unborn?"

    Bob: "No, the other one."

    Jim: "Violating the rights and sanctity of our Churches?"

    Bob: "No, the other one."

    Jim: "Spending $634 million on a website that doesn't work?"

    Bob: "No, the other one."

    Jim: "Obama calling for an increase in our debt when he lambasted Bush for the very same thing?"

    Bob: "No, the other one."

    Jim: "Obama having NSA spy on 124 Billion Phone Calls in One Month?"

    Bob: "No, the other one."

    Jim: "Saddling our kids with $17 trillion in debt of which they can
    never get out of and will not have as good a life as we have?"

    Bob: "No, the other one."

    Jim: "Bailing out Detroit after decades of corrupt Democratic management?"

    Bob: "No, the other one."

    Jim: "You mean the State Dept. lying about Benghazi?"

    Bob: "No, the other one."

    Jim: "You mean voter fraud?"

    Bob: "No, the other one."

    Jim: "Intentionally trying to hurt Americans during the sequester?"

    Bob: "No, the other one."

    Jim: "Blocking veterans who secured our freedoms from their monuments
    but giving the green light for Illegals to use Monument Mall?"

    Bob: "No, the other one."

    Jim: "Denying school kids the ability to tour the White House but still spending lavishly on his parties?"

    Bob: "No, the other one."

    Jim: "You mean Obama saying we can keep our insurance and doctors if we wanted to?"

    Bob: "No, the other one."

    Jim: "You mean the military not getting their votes counted?"

    Bob: "No, the other one."

    Jim: "The NSA monitoring foreign diplomats?"

    Bob: "No, the other one."

    Jim: "You mean the use of drones in our own country without the benefit of the law?"

    Bob: "No, the other one."

    Jim: "Giving 123 Technologies $300 Million and right after it declared bankruptcy and was sold to the Chinese?"

    Bob: "No, the other one."

    Jim: "You mean the president arming the Muslim Brotherhood?"

    Bob: "No the other one:.

    Jim: "The IRS targeting conservatives?"

    Bob: "No, the other one."

    Jim: "The DOJ spying on the press?"

    Bob: "No, the other one."

    Jim: "Sebelius shaking down health insurance executives?"

    Bob: "No, the other one."

    Jim: "You mean Obama spending $3.7 Trillion on Welfare Over Last 5 Years"

    Bob: "No, the other one."

    Jim: "Giving SOLYNDRA $500 MILLION DOLLARS and 3 months later they declared bankruptcy and then the Chinese bought it?"

    Bob: "No, the other one."

    Jim: "The NSA monitoring our phone calls, emails and everything else?"

    Bob: "No, the other one."

    Jim: "Millions of Americans losing their health care coverage?"

    Bob: "No, the other one."

    Jim: "Forcing Americans to include coverage in their insurance policies of items they do not want?"

    Bob: "No, the other one."

    Jim: "Ordering the release of nearly 10,000 illegal immigrants from jails and prisons, and falsely blaming the sequester?"

    Bob: "No, the other one."

    Jim: "Denying Arizona the right to protect its borders?"

    Bob: "No, the other one."

    Jim: "Providing weapons to Syrian rebels many of whom apparently are Al Queda"

    Bob: "No, the other one."

    Jim: "The president's repeated violation of the law requiring him to submit a

    budget no later than the first Monday in February?"

    Bob: "No, the other one."

    Jim: "The 2012 vote where 115% of all registered voters in some counties voted 100% for Obama?"

    Bob: "No, the other one."

    Jim: "The president's unconstitutional recess appointments in an attempt to circumvent the Senate's advise-and-consent role?"

    Bob: "No, the other one."

    Jim: "The State Department interfering with an Inspector General investigation on departmental sexual misconduct?"

    Bob: "No, the other one."

    Jim: "Clinton, the IRS, Clapper and Holder all lying to Congress?"

    Bob: "No, the other one."

    Jim: "The President using nearly $1 trillion dollars of stimulus money to fund his cronies?"

    Bob: "No, the other one"

    Jim: "You mean Fast & Furious?"

    Bob: "No, the other one."

    Jim:

    "I give up! ... Oh wait, I think I got it! You mean that 65 million

    low-information voters who don't pay taxes and get free stuff from

    taxpayers and stuck us again with the most pandering, corrupt

    administration in American history?"

    Bob: "THAT'S THE ONE!"

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    Let's talk about the word "scandal" for a sec . . .

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    So, instead of blaming the President, we should blame Republicans (conservatives/right-wingers/tea-partiers)?

    Since when is it inappropriate to hold a person in charge responsible for failures that came under their control?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julio3000 View Post
    Let's talk about the word "scandal" for a sec . . .
    Yeah - it was a copy/paste. I certainly don't agree with the whole lot, but it is really amazing how much **** Obama has done and got away with from his base

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    I don't hate the President, I do hate his policies though. I fear the NSA scandals and the complete lack of accountability and transparency will ultimately be his legacy while causing infinitely more harm than good.

    The NSA is doing its best to cripple the tech industry and soon the economy will follow.

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    The dislike does have a little to do with skin color ( does for the majority of my friends) but I don't think believe people truly wish ill will towards Obama. It's all a figure of speech.

    Sav, if Obama were a white man do you think the press would give him as much love and forgiveness that they have given this black Obama? I don't think so.

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    I really just think your anti pub homerism is clouding your judgement. Everyone pulls for their guy and against the other guy the same way they root for their teams and root against the other team. It's fantasy to think there's some complicated motive behind those who grump about Obama's policies other than the usual homerism.
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    Has it gotten so bad for Obama's presidency that we're going to do the whole "they hate him cause he's black!" thing again?

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    I am black and think he is the worst president we had since Carter. Sturg brought up a lot that that he has done wrong.

    Do I hate him? No, that is reserved for Cheney and Cheney alone. As he sucked as a president, yes and there is too much proof to say otherwise. His list of lies is so long that I do not believe anything that comes out of his mouth. Even the Europeans despise him. He has no friends except the Muslim Brotherhood and perhaps the Mexican cartels. Putin thinks he is a joke. China just laughs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
    So, instead of blaming the President, we should blame Republicans (conservatives/right-wingers/tea-partiers)?

    Since when is it inappropriate to hold a person in charge responsible for failures that came under their control?
    Well as I recall it was inappropriate as hell from the years 2001-2009 here, or rather back at the Ranch, so to speak. Repubs have damn short memories about how W did no wrong for 8 straight years when President Cheney was in charge.

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    There are no good leaders, and at least he isn't Bush (or Cheney if you will.) I'd say he's probably in the middle of the pack if you were to rank all of the presidents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gary82 View Post
    There are no good leaders, and at least he isn't Bush (or Cheney if you will.) I'd say he's probably in the middle of the pack if you were to rank all of the presidents.

    BWAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAAH!!


    The world hates him. He has done so much damage, I do not know how long it will take before we have friends anymore.

    His list of lies are so long....wow....I do not need to go on. Bush, even though I despise him almost as much and hate Cheney, did not have this many gaffs and at least leaders around the world didn't hate him, except the Muslims. No way he even sniff in the middle of the pack, he hasn't done anything that is noteworthy for the betterment of the country as a whole, meaning for liberals, conservatives, everyone. Obamination Care actually is terrible and the security issues will never be fixed. Hackers are already salivating at the amount of personal information they are going to glean from the system that has not much security at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AerchAngel View Post
    BWAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAAH!!


    The world hates him. He has done so much damage, I do not know how long it will take before we have friends anymore.

    His list of lies are so long....wow....I do not need to go on. Bush, even though I despise him almost as much and hate Cheney, did not have this many gaffs and at least leaders around the world didn't hate him, except the Muslims. No way he even sniff in the middle of the pack, he hasn't done anything that is noteworthy for the betterment of the country as a whole, meaning for liberals, conservatives, everyone. Obamination Care actually is terrible and the security issues will never be fixed. Hackers are already salivating at the amount of personal information they are going to glean from the system that has not much security at all.
    Bush was only liked internationally by the UK... not many leaders were that fond of him. You have to remember he dragged in pretty much most of our allies into Iraq (albeit they were small coalitions unlike the UK who had a bigger commitment).

    BO 44 may have foreign leaders that don't like him, but his popularity worldwide amongst the people is almost on par with Clinton. Maybe in the extreme Middle East he's not well liked, but he's actually very well liked by the Israeli people, even if it means Netanyahu isn't his biggest fan because he hasn't bent over for Israel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AerchAngel View Post
    BWAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAAH!!


    The world hates him. He has done so much damage, I do not know how long it will take before we have friends anymore.

    His list of lies are so long....wow....I do not need to go on. Bush, even though I despise him almost as much and hate Cheney, did not have this many gaffs and at least leaders around the world didn't hate him, except the Muslims. No way he even sniff in the middle of the pack, he hasn't done anything that is noteworthy for the betterment of the country as a whole, meaning for liberals, conservatives, everyone. Obamination Care actually is terrible and the security issues will never be fixed. Hackers are already salivating at the amount of personal information they are going to glean from the system that has not much security at all.
    Are you saying Bush's approach to foreign policy has been better than Obama's?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gary82 View Post
    Are you saying Bush's approach to foreign policy has been better than Obama's?
    I think he's saying that...somehow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gary82 View Post
    Are you saying Bush's approach to foreign policy has been better than Obama's?
    They're different?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    They're different?
    exactly.

    They aren't.

    Muslims hate everyone. The Brotherhood likes Obama, so score one for Obama.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gary82 View Post
    Are you saying Bush's approach to foreign policy has been better than Obama's?
    No, but he doesn't piss off foreign nation leaders as Obama has. Spying on France, England, Sweden, Germany, et al. Bush didn't do it so blatantly and got caught. I lived over there for 8 years, do you really think they care about the POTUS, eff to the effing naw they don't. The only time they care is when troops of their country has to come and help out the US, this is were Dumbya effed up but I blame it on Cheney, who I hope the devil burn his soul for eternity.

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