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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    The Cubs are in rebuilding mode. Their farm system is loaded with talented young position players. But they don't have a catcher of the future and are weak in pitching prospects. They match up incredibly well with us. The trade is there for the making:

    We can get Samardzija by offering them Bethancourt plus any three our minor league pitchers not named Sims or Cabrera.

    The three I suspect they would choose if they had that offer would be Hale, Graham and Simmons.

    I would not include Wood, Sims or Cabrera in any trade for Samardzija.

    This trade would be similar to the Michael Bourn trade. We gave up Schafer, Oberholtzer, Clemens and Abreu in that trade. None of these guys are of the caliber of Bethancourt as a prospect. We would be offering a stronger package for Samardzija.

    I don't think you could get it done without one of those guys, but given Theo and Jed's desire to begin stockpiling arms to go along with their position players, I think an offer of Cabrera, Hursh, Hale, and their choice of Northcraft or Martin could get it done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by clvclv View Post
    I don't think you could get it done without one of those guys, but given Theo and Jed's desire to begin stockpiling arms to go along with their position players, I think an offer of Cabrera, Hursh, Hale, and their choice of Northcraft or Martin could get it done.
    Hursh and anyone who was drafted in 2013 can't be traded for another six months. The Cubs do have a desire for pitching prospects. But they have an equally significant gap at catcher. Bethancourt is one of the top 100 prospects in the minors. I'm pretty sure he'll make BA's list next year. Given that we have Gattis to catch the next five years, it is unlikely that Bethancourt will realize his full value with the Braves. He'll be more valuable to a team like the Cubs.

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    Mark Bowman and DOB aren't on the same page. Bowman said the Braves aren't even pursuing Smardzija and that they have talked to the Twins about Kevin Freakin Correia. God I hope not. Braves nation would be pissed if that happened.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tvsportscaster View Post
    Mark Bowman and DOB aren't on the same page. Bowman said the Braves aren't even pursuing Smardzija and that they have talked to the Twins about Kevin Freakin Correia. God I hope not. Braves nation would be pissed if that happened.
    Kevin Correia seriously? Just re-sign Freddy Garcia

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    Quote Originally Posted by emk418 View Post
    Kevin Correia seriously? Just re-sign Freddy Garcia
    We did sign Yunesky Maya. So I think we already have our 2014 Rodrigo Lopez.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    Hursh and anyone who was drafted in 2013 can't be traded for another six months. The Cubs do have a desire for pitching prospects. But they have an equally significant gap at catcher. Bethancourt is one of the top 100 prospects in the minors. I'm pretty sure he'll make BA's list next year. Given that we have Gattis to catch the next five years, it is unlikely that Bethancourt will realize his full value with the Braves. He'll be more valuable to a team like the Cubs.
    They absolutely can be traded...just have to be included as PTBNLs.
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    Cubs have money. Make them take Uggla too. They can flip him to someone for 5 million a year for 2 years of uggla.

    CB + Wood + Gilmartin and 2-3 others not named Graham, Sims, Cabrera. They take Uggla too.

    I like CB but don't really believe he'll hit. I love Wood but don't believe he'll stay healthy as a starter. I want Graham b/c I think he's our next closer when CK walks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Russ2dollas View Post
    Cubs have money. Make them take Uggla too. They can flip him to someone for 5 million a year for 2 years of uggla.

    CB + Wood + Gilmartin and 2-3 others not named Graham, Sims, Cabrera. They take Uggla too.

    I like CB but don't really believe he'll hit. I love Wood but don't believe he'll stay healthy as a starter. I want Graham b/c I think he's our next closer when CK walks.
    Dude stop! IMO Wood WILL BE better than Samardzija.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clvclv View Post
    They absolutely can be traded...just have to be included as PTBNLs.
    Technically yes it can be done. But teams rarely do this knowing they have to wait seven months for the player to be named, with all the attendant injury and other risks during the intervening period.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay212033 View Post
    Dude stop! IMO Wood WILL BE better than Samardzija.
    I wouldn't trade Wood either. I think he is more likely to turn into an ace than any other Brave on the major league roster or in the farm system. I would trade Minor, Teheran or Sims before I would trade Wood.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    I wouldn't trade Wood either. I think he is more likely to turn into an ace than any other Brave on the major league roster or in the farm system. I would trade Minor, Teheran or Sims before I would trade Wood.
    Really? Is he your son?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    I wouldn't trade Wood either. I think he is more likely to turn into an ace than any other Brave on the major league roster or in the farm system. I would trade Minor, Teheran or Sims before I would trade Wood.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heyward View Post
    . I concur

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    Technically yes it can be done. But teams rarely do this knowing they have to wait seven months for the player to be named, with all the attendant injury and other risks during the intervening period.
    I believe trading recent draft picks as PTBNL can only be done to a team in the other league.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dalyn View Post
    Really? Is he your son?
    I know that shocks you as down on him as you were last year but the guy has great stuff and is a lefty that throws hard. He has as much upside as anyone we have.

    I think Wood will be a better pitcher than JS over time.

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    I'd take Minor and Teheran over Wood in a heartbeat

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tapate50 View Post
    I know that shocks you as down on him as you were last year but the guy has great stuff and is a lefty that throws hard. He has as much upside as anyone we have.

    I think Wood will be a better pitcher than JS over time.

    I wasn't down on him; I was realistic. And he didn't even make the playoff rotation. It should shock EVERYONE that a fan of the Braves said they would trade Simmons over Wood.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dalyn View Post
    I wasn't down on him; I was realistic. And he didn't even make the playoff rotation. It should shock EVERYONE that a fan of the Braves said they would trade Simmons over Wood.
    Pretty sure he meant Lucas Sims, not Simmons.
    I wouldn't trade Minor or Teheran over Wood though. Not yet, anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yeezus View Post
    Pretty sure he meant Lucas Sims, not Simmons.
    I wouldn't trade Minor or Teheran over Wood though. Not yet, anyway.
    Even if he did, Minor or Teheran over Wood is also insane. And, for the record, I like Alex.

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