Hmmmm, who was the first one to start throwing around terms like "full of ****" and saying "See! That last post proves it!"... I'd love to see a logical rundown of how you arrived at that conclusion.
My guess is that you couldn't, because nothing I have said is inconsistent at all.
Poor Ender. Does everything for the team he can to help us get to the playoffs. Signed one of the team-friendliest discount contracts in the bigs of any player as good as he is with what value he brings through his prime years, offered to platoon with Duvall if it meant making the playoffs, gets thrown around in trade rumors, and now has fans arguing here online about how good of a CF he really is.
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Just a little surprised that so much time and effort is being spent comparing Ender to Simba. As someone who watched him beginning in AA at age 17, I know full-well that the standard for any CF should be Andruw.
I don't readily see his UZR/150 before 2002, but the number from that point seem dominant beyond any normal comparison.
He was comparing this aspect of their game and the other poster jumped the gun, as he explains in this follow-up: "Ender is probably not the best defensive outfielder in the traditional sense, but the things Simba did with his baseball IQ to steal outs (Fake out plays, etc.) are things Ender does so often in CF that we don't give him enough credit for. Andruw always made the hard plays look routine for sure and he's in another class of his own. Ender though gets you so many outs from just heads up plays that I don't even remember Andruw getting. Thus why I said unconventional. Because these are high risk plays that if he doesn't execute it looks bad and the other team can capitalize on mistakes. The amount of times he's faked out guys, caught runners by throwing behind them, etc. are things Simba did routinely. They both take risks that aren't by the book often and make it look like it's by the book. That's how good both are respectively. I also think Ender is an exceptional field general in CF and commands the outfield to the guys next to him as good as anyone I've ever seen."
jpx7 (12-13-2018), The Chosen One (12-13-2018)
This thread really went south, and now I keep replaying that Simmons behind the back to himself play in my head. Even without the cannon arm he was incredible (I guess "is" is the proper verb, but not to me).
I remember Carter Kieboom being brought up by people here as an option in 2016 if he lasted til the comp/2nd round. Nats took him in the 1st and he's become a stud prospect. hurts to see.
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