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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    What’s really funny is that the right disassociates from actual hate while the left embraces it (Farrakhan)
    who decides what is hate and what is free speech
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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    who decides what is hate and what is free speech
    Silly argument and you know it. There are clear examples like Black people are lazy or Jews are conspiring to enslave people.

    You know that but it’s just not the direction you decided on taking under the Oranage man. I understand sir.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Silly argument and you know it. There are clear examples like Black people are lazy or Jews are conspiring to enslave people.

    You know that but it’s just not the direction you decided on taking under the Oranage man. I understand sir.
    silly argument? the question of what is hate and what is speech deserving of a platform and who gets to decide which category it falls in is at the core of what we are discussing in this thread...i guess you too busy with the Dominion **** to bother
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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    silly argument? the question of what is hate and what is speech deserving of a platform and who gets to decide which category it falls in is at the core of what we are discussing in this thread...i guess you too busy with the Dominion **** to bother
    I can multi task. You’re using hyperbole to prove a point and it’s sad.

    Some things are black and white.
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    Quote Originally Posted by goldfly View Post
    Iím amused by the persistent claim that the Right doesnít regularly engage in the same behavior. They just have different causes and outlets. I see no discernible difference between Wokeness on the left and Patriotism on the right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post

    Some things are black and white.
    sure...i think polite society is entitled to draw some lines...but i think you and i would disagree quite a bit about where those lines should be drawn...for example, twitter's lifetime ban on very poorly chosen one seems eminently reasonable to me in light of the gross abuses he has committed on their platform...his abuses strike me as much worse than young pharoah's
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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    silly argument? the question of what is hate and what is speech deserving of a platform and who gets to decide which category it falls in is at the core of what we are discussing in this thread...i guess you too busy with the Dominion **** to bother
    Do you think Farrakhan or the ayatollah should be on Twitter?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mqt View Post
    I’m amused by the persistent claim that the Right doesn’t regularly engage in the same behavior. They just have different causes and outlets. I see no discernible difference between Wokeness on the left and Patriotism on the right.
    the letter from Adam Kinzinger's family cancelling him is a pretty sad example
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krgrecw View Post
    Do you think Farrakhan or the ayatollah should be on Twitter?
    i don't have an opinion...i think it's up to twitter (as it is up to CPAC to decide on who to give a platform to)...but i do think it is beyond a reasonable doubt that very poorly chosen one's abuse of twitter's rules far exceeds Farrkhan's or the ayatollah's...which means that twitter could reasonably draw its lines in a way that would ban very poorly chosen one without banning the other two...

    there are useful analogies in sports and life in general...there are fouls...yellow card fouls...red card fouls...not all fouls are the same...and there are rules against persistent fouling...so if you are persistent enough you eventually get a yellow and then a red

    what do you think
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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    i don't have an opinion...i think it's up to twitter (as it is up to CPAC to decide on who to give a platform to)...but i do think it is beyond a reasonable doubt that very poorly chosen one's abuse of twitter's rules far exceeds Farrkhan's or the ayatollah's...which means that twitter could reasonably draw its lines in a way that would ban very poorly chosen one without banning the other two...

    there are useful analogies in sports and life in general...there are fouls...yellow card fouls...red card fouls...not all fouls are the same...and there are rules against persistent fouling...so if you are persistent enough you eventually get a yellow and then a red

    what do you think
    I didn’t ask about Trump. But I guess ‘I am not antisemite, I am anti termite’ is acceptable to you

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krgrecw View Post
    I didn’t ask about Trump. But I guess ‘I am not antisemite, I am anti termite’ is acceptable to you
    Highlighting election irregularities is apparently the final straw with principled moralist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krgrecw View Post
    I didn’t ask about Trump. But I guess ‘I am not antisemite, I am anti termite’ is acceptable to you
    i tried to answer your question in a constructive spirit...i guess that's not what you were looking for
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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    where's the outrage at this outrageous attack on free speech
    Can we acknowledge that speaking time at CPAC is far more limited than at one of the largest social media sites in the world? That any one speaker uses a significant percentage of the CPAC platform, where as any one poster uses an infinitesimally small portion of Twitter's?

    Further, can we agree that CPAC solely exists to advocate for a political ideology, and that Twitter, supposedly, does not?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaw View Post
    Can we acknowledge that speaking time at CPAC is far more limited than at one of the largest social media sites in the world? That any one speaker uses a significant percentage of the CPAC platform, where as any one poster uses an infinitesimally small portion of Twitter's?

    Further, can we agree that CPAC solely exists to advocate for a political ideology, and that Twitter, supposedly, does not?
    Yes. CPAC and twitter are quite different platforms. Agree on all points. You make me feel a little guilty. My use of the CPAC analogy does border on "bad faith posting." But it was too juicy to pass up. I mean they cancelled poor young pharoah. It's not like they didn't have a slot for him. They gave him one. Then pulled the rug out from under him. Where is the outrage? My daughter is presenting at a conference today. I'd be outraged if she was cancelled. So I am speaking as a father here. Thinking of young pharoah and his rights.
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    Amazon banned another best selling book the other day bc it offended trans people.

    Ho hum. Go build your own Amazon

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    This is so obvious that it still baffles me that the "liberals" can't see what happening.

    Of course they are supportive as commies always must shut down dissent


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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    This is so obvious that it still baffles me that the "liberals" can't see what happening.

    Of course they are supportive as commies always must shut down dissent


    TDS man

    TDS

    Even now there are more mentions of trump than Biden on almost every lefty site
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    Texans exercising their First Amendment rights.

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    hopefully this year's CPAC is as exciting as last year's...but i fear that without young pharaoh it might not be

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    This is so obvious that it still baffles me that the "liberals" can't see what happening.

    Of course they are supportive as commies always must shut down dissent

    LMAO

    Oligopoly.

    Dude is describing the conservative dream.

    Granted the logic he states is ****. But it's funny.

    Also again, 1st Amendment rights don't protect private citizens from repercussions from private businesses. If these companies were being manipulated as this tweet claims, then they'd have an easy Supreme Court win.
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