The slope is in full on slip
The slope is in full on slip
there are competing equities here...minority students should feel that they can attend classes and live on campus without being subject to racial abuseOriginally Posted by sturg33
the white students can go off campus to express themselves...the university has an overriding interest in providing an educational environment that works for all its students
no?
Last edited by nsacpi; 10-22-2019 at 12:18 PM.
"I am a victim, I will tell you. I am a victim."
"I am your retribution."
I believe the school could expel the students, but do not understand how the police can arrest them
the article is a little unclear what they are being charged with...do you have any information on that?
I think if I went into a private institution of any kind and started harassing the people there, they could call the police on me and have me arrested...no?
"I am a victim, I will tell you. I am a victim."
"I am your retribution."
'Face charges of ridicule on account of race, color, or creed'
I would guess there is a statute that specifically prohibits that in certain settings such as schools
"I am a victim, I will tell you. I am a victim."
"I am your retribution."
Is the school not public?
I dont see how or why you're defending this. It's exactly what yall have been saying wont happen in this thread
it is a public school...but I believe that government institutions (like private businesses such restaurants) have legal rights to set rules for people entering their facilities...in some cases this can override "free speech"...I don't think a student can stand up in a classroom and racially abuse others...it seems common sensical that in such settings one does not have the same protections for "free speech"
"I am a victim, I will tell you. I am a victim."
"I am your retribution."
The school can discipline the students. The state should not be allowed to arrest them.
I guess this is more paranoia though
schools have a lot of leeway in terms of setting rules on who can come on campus and what activities they can engage in
"I am a victim, I will tell you. I am a victim."
"I am your retribution."
actually schools rely on the state to help enforce their rules...just about every school has occasion to call in the police...its a judgment call in some cases...in this particular case, expulsion might be the best recourse
if I went to a supermarket and started racially abusing customers, the management could throw me out or they could call the police...both are reasonable choices depending upon how obnoxious and persistent I was
Last edited by nsacpi; 10-22-2019 at 12:39 PM.
"I am a victim, I will tell you. I am a victim."
"I am your retribution."
Yeah and you can be arrested for being racist.
Or at least, you used to not be able to
i like your tweet admits they can't yell anything they damn well pleaseThey have a First Amendment right to yell almost anything they damn well please.
the best case to use for this thread is your orange boy (i know, he isn't yours blah blah blah) attacking all truth and wanting to put people in jail for it
but so far, the answer to this thread is still nope
"For there is always light, if only we are brave enough to see it. If only we are brave enough to be it." Amanda Gorman
"When Fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross"
I think the supermarket has always had the right to throw me or anyone else off its premises for that kind of behavior
"I am a victim, I will tell you. I am a victim."
"I am your retribution."
goldfly (10-22-2019)
Store can tell you to leave. You’ll only get in trouble if you disobey the cops. Cops can’t charge you with being racist
well it is disturbing the peace or some such thing...now we have new laws...disturbing the peace while being a racist...progress!
actually it is not entirely a silly matter...I generally think we have too many laws...i'm not sure adding the category of hate crime makes much difference
"I am a victim, I will tell you. I am a victim."
"I am your retribution."
How is it still nope?
We now have two examples of governments making laws / arresting people for what they say
Freedom boy: “why can’t I yell fire in a theatre? My rights are under attack”
"For there is always light, if only we are brave enough to see it. If only we are brave enough to be it." Amanda Gorman
"When Fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross"
That's not an answer dude
if you're using your speech to harass someone and impedes them from getting their education etc
it isn't free speech
it isn't a debate or anything else that you want it to be to
it's harassment and can be criminal
your rights end when it involves what can happen/affect someone else. just like every other right
i'm sure you and your awful twitter follows will find another awful person to use as your martyr case of the impending war on freedom of speech though. lol
"For there is always light, if only we are brave enough to see it. If only we are brave enough to be it." Amanda Gorman
"When Fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross"
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