Is Free Speech Under Attack in this Country?

[Dalyn]

All new type of expenses emerged when women had to work so the true net impact to the future of the family was at beat a push but more often than not a detriment.

Not at all. This is a typical correlation/causation fallacy.

[thethe]

Not at all. This is a typical correlation/causation fallacy.

Taking a child away from their mother during formative years is a new experiment that contradicts almost all of human history. To not expect negatives from this is strange.

[Dalyn]

Taking a child away from their mother during formative years is a new experiment that contradicts almost all of human history. To not expect negatives from this is strange.

Dude...take a bit more than a cursory look at history. Dang. Also, plenty of parents manage to work and be there for their kids in every important way. If you want to argue that sort of logic, then you have to conclude that children have not had fathers pretty much throughout history. That's how unsound that argument is.

[thethe]

Dude...take a bit more than a cursory look at history. Dang. Also, plenty of parents manage to work and be there for their kids in every important way. If you want to argue that sort of logic, then you have to conclude that children have not had fathers pretty much throughout history. That's how unsound that argument is.

A father does not equal a mother

[Dalyn]

A father does not equal a mother

There's some truth to that. A lot more than the other things you've mentioned in this regard. It's just not true that working equals some aspect of neglect or abandonment. Throughout history, families (especially well off families) have had servants care for their children and wet nurses and all kinds of ****. This is not some drastically new social experiment in child neglect. A person does not need their mother to be around every second. Never have, never will. This is just some bull**** drummed up to attack women and equate a working mom with a bad mom to discourage behavior these people find wrong/distasteful.

[thethe]

There's some truth to that. A lot more than the other things you've mentioned in this regard. It's just not true that working equals some aspect of neglect or abandonment. Throughout history, families (especially well off families) have had servants care for their children and wet nurses and all kinds of ****. This is not some drastically new social experiment in child neglect. A person does not need their mother to be around every second. Never have, never will. This is just some bull**** drummed up to attack women and equate a working mom with a bad mom to discourage behavior these people find wrong/distasteful.

I dont think a working mom is a bad mom. I've acknowledged the reasons they have to work.

My position is that in an ideal scenario where finances are not a factor then a child is better off being raised solely by their mother and not a collective.

[Dalyn]

I dont think a working mom is a bad mom. I've acknowledged the reasons they have to work.

My position is that in an ideal scenario where finances are not a factor then a child is better off being raised solely by their mother and not a collective.

Okay. We were discussing poverty, in this case, and there are no such scenarios that exist in poverty. I'm also still not sure there is any evidence to support your "solely the mother" position on this one. Do you have some?

[nsacpi]

Many of these family members in question have not hesitated to turn their backs on the atheists, quiltbag, etc members of their families. And yet they expect every belief, idea, wild hair up their ass, to be respected as though it is the will of their god. It's bull****.

Gay sons and daughters, and siblings in particular might have some interesting observations to share on this matter.

#familyvalues

[Dalyn]

Gay sons and daughters, and siblings in particular might have some interesting observations to share on this matter.

#familyvalues

Yep. All the stuff the right is trying to demonize the left over are things they thought they'd cornered the market on.

[goldfly]

Yeah

Keep toxic ****ty people in your life

That’s healthy lol

[thethe]

Yep. All the stuff the right is trying to demonize the left over are things they thought they'd cornered the market on.

I'm the product of being raised without a mother and quite frankly without a father as well.

Maybe I'm biased and jealous of my friends that had mothers at home to ask them how their day was or give them confidence to ask a girl out they liked but I think the two issues we were discussing can be discussed in isolation.

[thethe]

Yeah

Keep toxic ****ty people in your life

That’s healthy lol

Toxic people as in....trump supporters.

[sturg33]

Sorry but you had the wrong opinion

[Dalyn]

I'm the product of being raised without a mother and quite frankly without a father as well.

Maybe I'm biased and jealous of my friends that had mothers at home to ask them how their day was or give them confidence to ask a girl out they liked but I think the two issues we were discussing can be discussed in isolation.

I feel you. I left home at 13. Some people really get a lucky draw. Some people don't.

[nsacpi]

I feel you. I left home at 13. Some people really get a lucky draw. Some people don't.

That's why we need socialism...to even things out

[Dalyn]

That's why we need socialism...to even things out

There definitely needs to be a safety net. This lockdown is the first time I've seen most of these people even pretend to care about hungry and suicidal kids.

[nsacpi]

There definitely needs to be a safety net. This lockdown is the first time I've seen most of these people even pretend to care about hungry and suicidal kids.

I think we will see some upgrades to the safety net come out of this.

[Dalyn]

I think we will see some upgrades to the safety net come out of this.

I agree. It is one of the positives.

[Dalyn]

Sorry but you had the wrong opinion

Writers have been complaining about Amazon doing similar things for years, and none of you noticed or cared until it had to do with this kind of ****.

[Dalyn]

I'm the product of being raised without a mother

All seriousness aside, it was hard to resist the, "Okay. You win. That definitely proves your point," joke here. :)