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Thread: Is Free Speech Under Attack in this Country?

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    I've quite clearly said that both should be legal and BOTH shouldn't be done.

    Why is this so hard?

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    So we need the government to protect us from Jim Crow laws? Wow.
    "State power feeds on crisis and enemies"

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    Here's a picture of the government protecting civil rights. The government doesn't give us rights, we only have the rights we fight for and demand from them. The constitution means nothing when the people who interpret it are biased and almost all of them are biased in favor of the government.
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    yes, we did/do need government to protect citizens from Jim Crow.

    There is a poster here , I forget who, with a family member that was either prosecutor or investigator on the capture and conviction of the Birmingham Church bombings of the 1960's that killed 4 girls

    That too would be government.
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    It's tiresome and lazy to yell government every time one arm of government goes awry only for another arm to correct.
    Government is such a broad brush

    Today government is Adam Shiff and Devin Nunes
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    The era you pictured above was for conversation sake Alabama. At the same time the state and local government was involved in these beatings etc the federal government was making the correction
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    Thats funny considering federal marijuana prohibition is a Jim Crow law. Louisiana also still has some Jim Crow laws like requiring only 10 of 12 jurors to vote guilty for felony convictions. Government is just the tool the majority force their will on the minority. The constitution is supposed to protect the minority but the majority just get their own judges into the key positions who then rule in favor of the majority's ability to oppress the minority.
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    By that token you should love AOC exchanges with Equifax this past week.

    Your issue doesnt appear to be the institution of government per se but the people we allow to make the decisions and administer them ?

    Your stance on Citizens United ?
    Gerrymandered district's and voter supression ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cajunrevenge View Post
    Thats funny considering federal marijuana prohibition is a Jim Crow law. Louisiana also still has some Jim Crow laws like requiring only 10 of 12 jurors to vote guilty for felony convictions. Government is just the tool the majority force their will on the minority. The constitution is supposed to protect the minority but the majority just get their own judges into the key positions who then rule in favor of the majority's ability to oppress the minority.
    Yeah, I don’t really know about that. A lot of Jim Crow-era laws, and earlier ones designed to underpin white supremacy, were made to enable minority rule, in case the large black populations of the Confederate states ever coalesced into a political force.

    Look at the current situation: two of the last five presidential elections have been won by candidates who lost the popular vote. Judicial appointments were stalled by a Republican Senate that represented a decided minority of voters, through the filibuster, through the blue-slip process, etc. Now that there’s a Republican President, one who lost the popular vote, the blue-slip process is being ignored. The process is largely being subverted by the minority, not being tyrannized by the majority. There’s no real debate that, in pure numerical terms, more people vote for D politicians. Yet the federal judiciary has been stacked with conservatives because of a very successful long-term effort to exploit the inequality inherent in the system. And, to give them their due they’ve done quite well. Focus on statehouses, draw the districts to your advantage. Use your inherent advantage in the least small-d democratic institution, the Senate, to stack the courts, which will provide a backstop against reform. The problem right now is the reality of minority rule—as expressed in Wisconsin, NC, etc, as well as in the electoral college—not majority rule.

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    i haven't read this thread

    mostly cause i hate fake outrage and fake prosecution from fake freedom lovers

    but i see this will be the 88th post and i hope somehow this has already been covered but


    no

    it isn't under attack

    anyone that says otherwise is a grade a idiot like the president and his followers
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    "In times of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act" George Orwell

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    hate speech or free speech?



    bump
    “It's a shame the White House has become an adult day care center. Someone obviously missed their shift this morning.” Senator Bob Corker

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    Gosh. Would hate to have views expressed that challenge the status quo of the groupthink at a prestigious campus


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    Hopefully we can be more like NZ


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    We are living in orwells world now. The left wants absolute control.

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    you argue that a cake baker in Indiana has the right to serve whom he pleases as it suits your political purposes.
    Or Drs. are morally damned for practicing a procedure

    yet a book store half way across the world draws your ire.
    gotcha
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    Quote Originally Posted by 57Brave View Post
    you argue that a cake baker in Indiana has the right to serve whom he pleases as it suits your political purposes.
    Or Drs. are morally damned for practicing a procedure

    yet a book store half way across the world draws your ire.
    gotcha
    Yes. Banning thought and speech catches my eye

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    Quote Originally Posted by mqt View Post
    So if the market dictates that Ben Shapiro and Jordan Peterson’s views on certain topics/groups is unacceptable, is that not a failure of their personal brands? Shouldn’t we be celebrating the market dictating that failure?
    Shapiro's book is #1 on NY Times non-fiction (I haven't read it nor have any interest in reading it)

    I can assure you his censorship is not a free market dynamic

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    Whenever I scroll and see this title I wonder how can it be that you had never heard of Lenny Bruce
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    I wish the Left was more tolerant and not abusive.

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    hard hitting stuff here man

    so thankful the commies haven't won yet so we could point out these great examples of persecution
    "If ever a time should come, when vain and aspiring men shall possess the highest seats in Government, our country will stand in need of its experienced patriots to prevent its ruin. It is a very great mistake to imagine that the object of loyalty is the authority and interest of one individual man, however dignified by the applause or enriched by the success of popular actions.” Samuel Adams

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