Is Free Speech Under Attack in this Country?

[sturg33]

we all know by now he is a fake first amendment warrior...he wouldn't know an attack on free speech if it hit him in the nuts

You were much smarter before Trump broke you

[nsacpi]

acting DHS secretary going all caudillo on us...good luck with that Chad

[Krgrecw]

You were much smarter before Trump broke you

As soon as trump is out of office, he’s going to go back to being a conservative and bitch about how the democrats are destroying America

[57Brave]

As soon as trump is out of office, he’s going to go back to being a conservative and bitch about how the democrats are destroying America

as will many others --- good

Trump is a mutant of the system.
Was bound to happen

[57Brave]

Acting Secretary Chad Wolf
@DHS_Wolf

“I offered @DHSgov support to help locally address the situation

that’s going on in Portland, and their only response was: please pack

up and go home. That’s just not going to happen on my watch.”

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That my fellow Braves fans is some scary ****

[goldfly]

we all know by now he is a fake first amendment warrior...he wouldn't know an attack on free speech if it hit him in the nuts

yep

his true colors were shown a while back


his weak excuse of "not knowing what's going on" with a real instance free speech under attack by a president with a private army being directed by a non senate confirmed head of a department to snatch american citizens up he doesn't like speaks volumes how how big of a fraud he is

if only it was a twitter account getting a warning message telling people something was a lie. he would then be outrage i guess

[57Brave]

"rioters"



Joshua Potash
@JoshuaPotash
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8h
Portland tonight. It appears that the feds have caused the size of the protests to double.


https://twitter.com/i/status/1284343453405646848

[57Brave]

and the other Oregon Senator:


Senator Jeff Merkley
@SenJeffMerkley
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19h
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@realDonaldTrump
: Get your DHS lackey and uninvited paramilitary actions

out of my state. Our communities are not a stage for

your twisted reelection campaign.

[57Brave]

Bandy X Lee, MD, MDiv
@BandyXLee1
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14h
What Donald Trump is doing in Portland is a trial balloon

(or, in psychological terms, “testing limits”).

He may believe Oregon is far enough away to experiment with

how much can he get away with, at the same time as

punishing protestors in a “blue” state.

This is a prelude.

[nsacpi]

"rioters"



Joshua Potash
@JoshuaPotash
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8h
Portland tonight. It appears that the feds have caused the size of the protests to double.


https://twitter.com/i/status/1284343453405646848

that's the thing...a mature laider works to deescalate these kinds of situations...very poorly chosen one throws gasoline on the fire

[goldfly]

still silence from the so called freedom lover/libertarian

i'm shocked

[Metaphysicist]

I am ashamed for sturg here.

[goldfly]

I am ashamed for sturg here.

if only they would have banned their twitter accounts while they were simultaneously snatching them off the street in unmarked cars

he might be vocal by now

[57Brave]

#rioters


Joshua Potash
@JoshuaPotash
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6h
Incredible scene in Portland right now.

A group of Moms are chanting,

“Feds stay clear! Moms are here!” at the federal courthouse.


https://twitter.com/i/status/1284704272282800128

[Tomahawking4life]

still silence from the so called freedom lover/libertarian

i'm shocked

I remember the days when you claimed to be that

Lol

[sturg33]

It's funny. I start a thread about free speech being attacked in this country and get endlessly mocked for it... Then am asked where I am when free speech is being attacked.

Sturg doesn't think federal agents should be arresting people in Portland. But sturg doesn't think federal buildings should be in Portland to begin with. Rioters are destroying the federal buildings... Local police won't address it... Federal agents are.

Sturg believes in property rights, you know. Violence is not a first amendment right.

[nsacpi]

And almost as suddenly as they had grabbed him off the street, the men let him go. The federal officers who snatched him off the street as he was walking home from a peaceful protest did not tell him why he had been detained or provide him any record of an arrest, he told The Post. As far as he knows, he has not been charged with any crimes. And, Pettibone said, he did not know who detained him.

During a video press conference Friday, Portland Mayor Ted Wheeler twice called the federal police in his city President Trump’s “personal army” and said that he is joining a chorus of Oregon’s elected officials in sending a clear message to Washington: “Take your troops out of Portland.”

Federal officers from the U.S. Marshals Service and Department of Homeland Security have stormed Portland’s streets as part of President Trump’s promised strong response to ongoing protests. Local leaders expressed alarm at news of Pettibone’s detention and echoed calls for the feds to leave that have grown stronger since Marshals Service officers severely wounded a peaceful protester on Saturday.

Jann Carson, interim executive director of the American Civil Liberties Union of Oregon, called the recent arrests “flat-out unconstitutional” in a statement shared with The Post.

“Usually when we see people in unmarked cars forcibly grab someone off the street, we call it kidnapping,” Carson said.

“I am proud to be among the loud chorus of elected officials calling for the federal troops in Portland’s streets to go home,” Portland City Commissioner Jo Ann Hardesty said in a statement shared with The Post on Sunday. “Their presence here has escalated tensions and put countless Portlanders exercising their First Amendment rights in greater danger.”

Pettibone says he was simply exercising his free speech rights on Wednesday when he was detained. He and a friend were walking to a car to drive home after a relatively calm demonstration in a nearby park. He said he did not do anything to instigate police that night, or at any of the other protests he had attended over the past six weeks.

“I have a pretty strong philosophical conviction that I will not engage in any violent activity,” he told The Post. “I keep it mellow and try to document police brutality and try to show up for solidarity.”

“We’ve done a great job in Portland,” Trump said at a news conference on Monday. “Portland was totally out of control, and they went in, and I guess we have many people right now in jail. We very much quelled it, and if it starts again, we’ll quell it again very easily. It’s not hard to do, if you know what you’re doing.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...ge%2Fstory-ans

Pretty clear what is going on. DHS is being used in a provocative manner. very poorly chosen one trying to provoke a pretext to further militarize the situation. What a sad excuse of a human being. A decent person would be looking for ways to de-escalate. The disturbed child we have in the White House wants to escalate.

bump with some bolding added

pretty clear very poorly chosen one has sent in paramilitary units for the purpose of escalating the situation...red meat for the ever dwindling and increasingly shrill base

[sturg33]

I think your constant insistence that all protesting has been peaceful is laughable.

But you ain't gonna believe this... The government is incapable of doing things well... And sadly, innocent people pay the price when they are in charge.

That's why sturg insists on cutting government power... Not expanding it like you do

[nsacpi]

I think your constant insistence that all protesting has been peaceful

i've never said that...nice try at a diversion

[sturg33]

i've never said that...nice try at a diversion

Everytime there has been force you claim authoritarianism against peaceful protesters.

In reality... Force rarely gets used except in extreme violent situations.

But I notice the left takes victory on either side... Cities burning down? Trump's America has failed. Violent protesters being dealt with? Trump is an authoritarian fascist.