Is Free Speech Under Attack in this Country?

[nsacpi]

Is that shocking to you? Reason is a great site. They only get a bad rep occasionally because they refuse to do what so many ideologues do which is choose their position then work backwards to find logic to support it. Their bias is to freedom, liberty, and the constitution.

I know they publish good work. I posted an article a while back giving some very thoughtful discussion about libertarianism during a pandemic.

[nsacpi]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...ge%2Fstory-ans

Someone had the bright idea to demonstrate for BLM in Harrison, Arkansas.

Needless to say there was some pushback. It seems to me this is part and parcel of free speech. You express your views in the public square and those who disagree express their disagreement.

But there was also this:

The most frightening interaction, Bliss said, was when a man in a cream-colored Camry drove by flipping him off and moments later returned to warn, “About 10 minutes, I’m gonna be back. You better be f------ gone.”

This seems to me more of an infringement of free speech. A threat or attempt to intimidate.

And also this:

As they made their way toward the town square, they were heckled while armed White men patrolled the sidewalks and stood on rooftops.

The heckling is part of free speech. But the display of firearms in this context strikes me as an attempt to undermine free speech.

Free speech is an important topic and deserving of a nuanced discussion.

[sturg33]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...ge%2Fstory-ans

Someone had the bright idea to demonstrate for BLM in Harrison, Arkansas.

Needless to say there was some pushback. It seems to me this is part and parcel of free speech. You express your views in the public square and those who disagree express their disagreement.

But there was also this:

The most frightening interaction, Bliss said, was when a man in a cream-colored Camry drove by flipping him off and moments later returned to warn, “About 10 minutes, I’m gonna be back. You better be f------ gone.”

This seems to me more of an infringement of free speech. A threat or attempt to intimidate.

And also this:

As they made their way toward the town square, they were heckled while armed White men patrolled the sidewalks and stood on rooftops.

The heckling is part of free speech. But the display of firearms in this context strikes me as an attempt to undermine free speech.

Free speech is an important topic and deserving of a nuanced discussion.

How is this any different than cancel culture... which you seem to wholly endorse?

[sturg33]

you don't post when activists stand outside Chad Wolfs house saying they must make him and his family uncomfortable.

[nsacpi]

How is this any different than cancel culture... which you seem to wholly endorse?

I'm happy to have a nuanced discussion.

[goldfly]

well first things ****ing last

**** chad wolf

[sturg33]

Sounds like intimidation

[goldfly]

you're a weird hate the gov't and support 2nd amendment person lol

but call it whatever you want

that dude isn't senate confirmed to run that office and thus isn't legitimate and has declared war on americans with gestapo tactics

**** him and his comfort.

[sturg33]

You alright fella?

[nsacpi]

A public place like the area around the White House seems like fair game. But going to a private residence to protest has an element of bullying and intimidation. And displaying firearms while doing so takes it very far away from the spirit of exercising first amendment rights.

[goldfly]

yeah, i'm good

[cajunrevenge]

Speaking of Chad Wolf. Why is he acting DHS for 9 months now when Republicans control the Senate and have been rubber stamping anyone Trump nominates? Are they really that scared to let Democrats question him under oath? Pretty sure he has testified before Congress as acting DHS so not sure how that could be it.

[nsacpi]

Speaking of Chad Wolf. Why is he acting DHS for 9 months now when Republicans control the Senate and have been rubber stamping anyone Trump nominates? Are they really that scared to let Democrats question him under oath? Pretty sure he has testified before Congress as acting DHS so not sure how that could be it.

Yeah. He had trouble answering some simple questions from Senator Kennedy. Not the brightest bulb.

[goldfly]

Trumps illega way of getting his lackeys in charge and not having them confirmed by the senate like they are required to be

The whole administration is a criminal racket

[sturg33]

A company with a backbone in the age of cancel culture.

[goldfly]

So brave

[goldfly]

[goldfly]

I thought the free speech guy would be up in arms about a president using executive order to ban a website/app

[striker42]

Free speech is usually under attack. Most people can't stand to have others disagree with them. They feel it's an attack and lash out at the source of the perceived attack.

[nsacpi]

Free speech is usually under attack. Most people can't stand to have others disagree with them. They feel it's an attack and lash out at the source of the perceived attack.

Yeah. My wife is constantly attacking my free speech rights.