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    The left has become the party of banning and censorship

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    Meanwhile, Northam is still governor of VA and Biden is still the favorite for next President.

    But at least we got revenge on that 16 year old kid!

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    and then there is Trump

    So, what is your point

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    My point is that we are no longer a society that values and defends free expression... and there is a clear ideaology that is feeling that more than the other.

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    Of course we are. Any one can say,printt,draw or read whatever they want without fear of inprisonment.

    Which is the meaning of free expression.

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    If memory serves hou sided with the cake bakers

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    Sigh.

    Why I bother with a socialist who supports shutting down the speech of political opponents is beyond me.

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    I’m seeing a lot of folks who demonstrate very little compassion for marginalized people, little regard for the full humanity of certain groups, and scant concern for young victims of state violence suddenly solemnly intoning about “grace” in the case of a teenager who thought (until it became public, anyway) that the n-word was hilarious.

    I mean, it’s possible they have a point about grace and forgiveness, but where is that compassion otherwise? And why should grace and forgiveness on a personal level not be sufficient, in this case? Why should it be extended to acting as if this kid is entitled to a position that thousands of kids (maybe ones who aren’t racist) are competing for?

    There’s a weird vibe of entitlement that runs through this whole “free speech”/“political correctness” discussion. Free expression is defined as the ability to maintain a revenue stream on a private platform. People who boil poverty down to bad choices all the sudden become fans of grace and forgiveness for bad choices when consequences touch a conservative white kid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julio3000 View Post
    I’m seeing a lot of folks who demonstrate very little compassion for marginalized people, little regard for the full humanity of certain groups, and scant concern for young victims of state violence suddenly solemnly intoning about “grace” in the case of a teenager who thought (until it became public, anyway) that the n-word was hilarious.

    I mean, it’s possible they have a point about grace and forgiveness, but where is that compassion otherwise? And why should grace and forgiveness on a personal level not be sufficient, in this case? Why should it be extended to acting as if this kid is entitled to a position that thousands of kids (maybe ones who aren’t racist) are competing for?

    There’s a weird vibe of entitlement that runs through this whole “free speech”/“political correctness” discussion. Free expression is defined as the ability to maintain a revenue stream on a private platform. People who boil poverty down to bad choices all the sudden become fans of grace and forgiveness for bad choices when consequences touch a conservative white kid.
    i'll second your motion for a wider dissemination of compassion, grace and forgiveness...especially for children and teenagers...even adults (of all ages) have a capacity to learn and grow and need some of that compassion, grace and forgiveness
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    Quote Originally Posted by Julio3000 View Post
    People who boil poverty down to bad choices all the sudden become fans of grace and forgiveness for bad choices when consequences touch a conservative white kid.
    I guess its yes to compassion but no to socialism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Julio3000 View Post
    People who boil poverty down to bad choices all the sudden become fans of grace and forgiveness for bad choices when consequences touch a conservative white kid.
    Can you please elaborate how the two are related at all unless you think that dropping out of school or getting into drugs is akin to a kid using a form of speech that makes people uncomfortable/angry?
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    Like I said, the same people celebrating a kid paying for a racist convos as a teenager are surely unwilling to support Biden after several racist remarks.

    They are absolutely calling for Northam to be removed.

    Sarah Jeyong to be fired.

    James Gunn to be fired.

    Right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    I guess its yes to compassion but no to socialism.
    We have a whole lot of data that socialism causes suffering and death.

    Not very compassionate

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    Like I said, the same people celebrating a kid paying for a racist convos as a teenager are surely unwilling to support Biden after several racist remarks.

    They are absolutely calling for Northam to be removed.

    Sarah Jeyong to be fired.

    James Gunn to be fired.

    Right?
    You know the answer to that.

    But the reaction will be 'intent' and that someone like Kyle is a 'bad' person who deserves to be stripped of his white privilege opportunity.
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    none of these are free speech issues still
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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    We have a whole lot of data that socialism causes suffering and death.

    Not very compassionate
    show me the data
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    Quote Originally Posted by goldfly View Post
    none of these are free speech issues still
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    We’re...still...somehow throwing around words like “censorship” and “free expression.” And I’m still not sure where those principles have been violated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    Like I said, the same people celebrating a kid paying for a racist convos as a teenager are surely unwilling to support Biden after several racist remarks.

    They are absolutely calling for Northam to be removed.

    Sarah Jeyong to be fired.

    James Gunn to be fired.

    Right?
    There were considerable protests to Northam remaining in office. But, if you apply the Ron Paul “that was 30 years ago” standard to it, it must be ok with you, right? You’re Mr. Consistent Principles, no?

    But let’s do just get on record for when and where the n-word is ok.

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