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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post

    I can’t imagine Joe Rogan agreeing to this or being okay with it

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    When you lose every issue on its merits the only thing you can do to achieve desired control is censure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    When you lose every issue on its merits the only thing you can do to achieve desired control is censure.
    Why can't YouTube and Spotify just let the people decide if they want to watch/listen?

    Why is that so radical?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    Why can't YouTube and Spotify just let the people decide if they want to watch/listen?

    Why is that so radical?
    Because they know prople will agree with it.
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    In before goldy makes a comment about freedom boy being against a private company doing what it wants

    What’s my prize?

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    Quote Originally Posted by acesfull86 View Post
    In before goldy makes a comment about freedom boy being against a private company doing what it wants

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    Darn that is a great point I had never considered!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krgrecw View Post
    I can’t imagine Joe Rogan agreeing to this or being okay with it
    Yeah, no doubt

    It was he just signed with them for 100 million dollars lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by acesfull86 View Post
    In before goldy makes a comment about freedom boy being against a private company doing what it wants

    What’s my prize?

    Nothing

    Pointing out that these aren’t free speech issues

    Is like pointing out things that aren’t peaceful protesters getting arrested have nothing to do with peaceful protesters being arrested/abused
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    Quote Originally Posted by goldfly View Post
    Nothing

    Pointing out that these aren’t free speech issues

    Is like pointing out things that aren’t peaceful protesters getting arrested have nothing to do with peaceful protesters being arrested/abused
    Speech is being censored on the largest speech platforms in the world.

    Is it legal? Yes.

    Is it something a society that values free speech and expression would support? **** no

    If you weren't mentally broken youd understand this

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    Quote Originally Posted by goldfly View Post
    Yeah, no doubt

    It was he just signed with them for 100 million dollars lol
    No **** Sherlock but Rogan said he still had total control over everything.

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    whatever one may think of Bolton, the abuse of the process for clearing his book and now this investigation represent a sustained attack on his free speech rights...all in the name of sparing very poorly chosen one from embarrassment and political damage...and the attack is being carried out by the United States government undoubtedly on orders from very poorly chosen one...not by a private company...not by private individuals...but by OUR government

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    The Justice Department has opened a criminal investigation into whether President Trump’s former national security adviser John R. Bolton unlawfully disclosed classified information when he published a memoir this summer, a case that the department opened after it failed to stop the book’s publication this summer, according to three people familiar with the matter.

    The department has convened a grand jury, which issued a subpoena for communications records from Simon & Schuster, the publisher of Mr. Bolton’s memoir, “The Room Where It Happened.” In the book, Mr. Bolton delivered a highly unflattering account of his 17 months working in the Trump administration.

    The investigation is a significant escalation in the fraught publication of the book. The Trump administration had sought to stop its publication, accusing Mr. Bolton in a lawsuit of moving forward with publication without receiving final notice that a prepublication review to scrub out classified information was complete. The director of national intelligence referred the matter to the Justice Department last month, two of the people said. John Demers, the head of the department’s national security division, then opened the criminal investigation, according to a person briefed on the case.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/15/u...stigation.html
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    https://www.washingtonpost.com/local...c64_story.html

    Hours before law enforcement forcibly cleared protesters from Lafayette Square in early June amid protests over the police killing of George Floyd, federal officials began to stockpile ammunition and seek devices that could emit deafening sounds and make anyone within range feel like their skin is on fire, according to an Army National Guard major who was there.

    D.C. National Guard Maj. Adam D. DeMarco told lawmakers that defense officials were searching for crowd control technology deemed too unpredictable to use in war zones and had authorized the transfer of about 7,000 rounds of ammunition to the D.C. Armory as protests against police use of force and racial injustice roiled Washington.

    In sworn testimony, shared this week with The Washington Post, DeMarco provided his account as part of an ongoing investigation into law enforcement and military officers’ use of force against D.C. protesters.

    The Trump administration has argued that officers were responding to violent protesters who had been igniting fireworks, setting fires and throwing water bottles and rocks at police.

    But DeMarco’s account contradicts the administration’s claims that protesters were violent, tear gas was never used and demonstrators were given ample warning to disperse — a legal requirement before police move to clear a crowd.

    He told lawmakers he felt compelled to come forward as a witness because he found the events at Lafayette Square “deeply disturbing.” His attorney, David Laufman, said DeMarco hopes lawmakers will continue to investigate the federal response.

    DeMarco told legislators that, having served in a combat zone where he spent time assessing various threats, he did not feel threatened at any point by protesters near the White House “or assess them to be violent.”

    “From my observation, these demonstrators — our fellow American citizens — were engaged in the peaceful expression of their First Amendment rights,” he said. “Yet they were subjected to an unprovoked escalation and excessive use of force.”
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    “Authoritarianism is able to take hold not because you have a strong set of leaders who are forcing their way. It’s more about the fact that we can give away our democracy. In Hungary and Turkey today, in Nazi Germany, those folks gave away their democracy, by being complacent.”

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    Yes. I too, observe how you and goldy and others cheer on as speech that doesn't support one ideology in this country is snuffed out, or voluntarily given away out of fear.

    Sad

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    Meanwhile, the Chinese whistle-blower scientist who says the virus was created in a lab, and appeared on Tucker Carlson last night, has been completely cebsored on all tech media platforms.

    Why censorship?

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    I see Carlsons monologue tonight was on techs stranglehold of free speech.

    Prudent to this conversation. I'd challenge wise nasacpi to have a look and explain why what is said is wrong

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