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    Quote Originally Posted by goldfly View Post
    seriously have yet to see anything to back up any **** the right has said about Omar

    other than she is a muslim woman speaking hard truths about awful policies the far right conduct in Israel
    You do know that she's gone back and deleted a bunch of tweets.

    Why on Earth would she do that?

    Let's see, she said Israel hypnotized the world.

    She said all those Jews cared about nothing but money.

    She said AIPAC bought our government (remember when you were supposed to show me data on that)

    She has made the dual loyalty claim multiple times


    Why do you think Nancy has had to apologize for her so many times?

    Y'all defend infanticide. Y'all defend fake hoaxes. Y'all defend anti-Semitism. Y'all defend fantasy green initiatives. Y'all have lost your minds

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    no one defends infanticide. no one defends fake hoaxes. Outside of the immigration "emergency"

    To further prove Rep Omar's point is the zionistic appropriation of the term "semite"

    Sem·ite
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    /ˈsemīt/
    noun
    noun: Semite; plural noun: Semites

    a member of any of the peoples who speak or spoke a Semitic language, including in particular the Jews and Arabs.

    ................

    The most widely spoken Semitic language today is Arabic,

    followed by Amharic, Tigrinya, and Hebrew.

    The table below lists the most populous Semitic languages.

    It is estimated that there are over 400 million first- and over 240 million

    second-language speakers of the 35 varieties of Arabic
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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    You do know that she's gone back and deleted a bunch of tweets.
    so what ? I took down a tweet a couple weeks ago. Because on reflection it was inane. Who knows why she did it

    Why on Earth would she do that?
    who knows. Maybe she misspelled a word. You have proven over and over your grasp of Rep Omars thinking. Why would you make any assumptions that shoud be taken seriously?

    Let's see, she said Israel hypnotized the world.
    see above the use of the term "semite"

    She said all those Jews cared about nothing but money.
    Be it PC or not, that is Shakespearean. Shylock was his name I would think a Somalian Arab would see things that way. Do you understand anything you disagree with ?

    She said AIPAC bought our government (remember when you were supposed to show me data on that)
    look it up, isnt hard to find the campaign contributions and connect the dots to support for the Netenyahu(sic) government and Zionism

    She has made the dual loyalty claim multiple times
    As have I


    Why do you think Nancy has had to apologize for her so many times?
    You said dozens earlier without backing that up -- and her name is Speaker Pelosi. Do you call Amash "Justin" no.

    Y'all defend infanticide. Y'all defend fake hoaxes. Y'all defend anti-Semitism. Y'all defend fantasy green initiatives. Y'all have lost your minds
    "fantasy green initiatives" No not me, not since early 1970's
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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    How am I changing a subject? You directly brought up a very stupid point to which I addressed

    Illan Omar is an anti semite. You can criticize Israel, like Ron Paul and Justin Amash have done, without accusing people of dual loyalty or being bought and paid for by the jews

    There is a reason so many people have had to do damage control for her, including Nancy

    At least the Reps pulled King off all his committee assignments.

    But dems have shown over and over that racism doesn't matter on their side... how's the governor of VA doing these days?
    Oh yeah, Ron Paul has a great track record here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    Speaking of areas where Ron Paul has a great track record...she’s got a long way to go to catch up with the leader in the clubhouse in the Endorsements from White Supremacists category.

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    Lots of gymnastics being deployed to avoid addressing that anti semitism is growing within the democratic party. Its basically a mirror image of the labour party now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julio3000 View Post
    Speaking of areas where Ron Paul has a great track record...she’s got a long way to go to catch up with the leader in the clubhouse in the Endorsements from White Supremacists category.
    I was curious if your previous standards would be applied here and am shocked to learn that of course they dont

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    I was curious if your previous standards would be applied here and am shocked to learn that of course they dont
    What we are now getting validation on is that identity politics was always a means to an end and the end was total government control.

    The left doesnt care about women. They domt care about Jews. They dont care about blacks. Its all pawns in their game to get government to run all of our lives.

    Some recent polling in SC yielded some intriguing demographics in that trump was running at over 20% with african americans. Can you believe how much nastiness will come from the left once they realize their monopoly on the black vote is coming to an end. Thats why you hear reparations. Thats why they cheer on open borders while issuing goverent is to illegals. Need to buy ot import the next class of voters.
    Warm feelings guy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julio3000 View Post
    Oh yeah, Ron Paul has a great track record here.
    If Dr Paul has ever said that Mericans are hypnotized by the Jews, or are bought by the Jwws, or questioning Jewish Americans loyalty, please point me in that direction.

    But this thread is about our current Congress. And I assume you have nothing to add here because (D)

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    If Dr Paul has ever said that Mericans are hypnotized by the Jews, or are bought by the Jwws, or questioning Jewish Americans loyalty, please point me in that direction.

    But this thread is about our current Congress. And I assume you have nothing to add here because (D)
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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    One of his newsletters contained speculation that the 1993 World Trade Center bombing was carried out by Mossad.
    If you believe he wrote the newsletter then that is fine. I don't.

    I'm asking about direct statements from him, a guy who is had a mic in his face for 40 years.

    But again, this isn't about Paul. If you have a problem with Paul, I assume you have just as big a problem with Omar

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    If you believe he wrote the newsletter then that is fine. I don't.

    I'm asking about direct statements from him, a guy who is had a mic in his face for 40 years.

    But again, this isn't about Paul. If you have a problem with Paul, I assume you have just as big a problem with Omar
    I do have problems with Omar. But I also have problems with how Eliot Engel (in whose district I live, following his career has left me with a rather low regard for him) and some of the other Democrats have handled the situation with her. And I have problems with how issues revolving about Israel have affected our politics. For example, I think it was wrong of Netanyahu to address the Congress to oppose Obama's deal with Iran. By the way, I wasn't in favor of the deal but I think as Americans we can work matters like this out among ourselves without Netanyahu's help. And I thought Boehner (who I generally have a high regard for) made a mistake in extending the invitation to Netanyahu.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    If Dr Paul has ever said that Mericans are hypnotized by the Jews, or are bought by the Jwws, or questioning Jewish Americans loyalty, please point me in that direction.

    But this thread is about our current Congress. And I assume you have nothing to add here because (D)
    You mentioned Ron Paul first.

    I’ve addressed Omar and the larger controversy quite a few times now, and more substantively than you’ve ever addressed Ron Paul’s truly weird and nasty white supremacist and anti-Semitic associations. Right, right, 40 years with a mic in his face, etc. He didn’t write the newsletters.

    Here’s the thing. It doesn’t matter if he wrote them or not. Let’s say he had zero responsibility for writing them. He was content to turn a buck for nearly two decades on stuff that was noxiously racist, anti-Semitic, homophobic, etc. He bought mailing lists from white supremacist and anti-Semitic organizations. Regardless of the authorship—and that’s being generous—that in itself is pretty racist. Which is why I note again that you equivocate and dismiss and make excuses for him, and adhere to a peculiar definition of x-ism that declares that you can only be x-ist based on your words, not your actions.

    As for Omar, I’ll repeat: her 2012 tweet about Israel hypnotizing the world is icky. I’m sensitive to objections made in good faith to her current tweets about Israel, and cognizant that what she’s actually said has been widely misrepresented, including by you. The stuff about the boycott bill was not directed at Jewish people, but at supporters of the legislation and similar measures, the vast majority of whom are evangelical Christians, whose eschatological fascination with Israel I find creepy, btw. I don’t blame people who felt like they skirted or crossed a line. I also don’t think most of the criticism from the right is being made in good faith.

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    I know you think Ron Paul is a racist. You've told me one thousand times and I get it and I simply don't care.

    What's more interesting to me is you excuse the very same behavior you hate by simply saying "BUT WHAT ABOUT RON PAUL NEWSLETTERS 30 YEARS AGO"

    I get it. One is a socialist and the other isn't and thus one gets your support.

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    One is "icky" and "troubling"

    The other is "nasty, racist, anti-semetic, homophobic, etc"

    The only difference I can see here is the letter next to their name and the fact that one of them directly said it from the horses mouth, and the other didn't. But as I've asked you 1,000 times, if he is so incredibly racist, you can easily find ONE example of him saying something over 40 years.

    No? It only took Omar two months before Nancy had to draft resolution to cover for her

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    Are we allowed to state the obvious here?

    Muslims and Jews have been at war for a long time. To not think that Omar doesnt like Jews is well wishful thinking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Are we allowed to state the obvious here?

    Muslims and Jews have been at war for a long time. To not think that Omar doesnt like Jews is well wishful thinking.
    The only reason she has survived is because she is a Muslim.

    The dems are making a very smart calculation that attacking jews is much better political strategy than attacking muslims.

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