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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    The rule with Antisemitism that I've learned over my lifetime is assume the worst and hope thats the best. If you think for a second this women cares at all for the Jewish people then you are a true ideologue that needs to rethink your positions.
    You really jumped to a conclusion quickly about this one woman, while ignoring so much other crap. Says a lot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Runnin View Post
    You really jumped to a conclusion quickly about this one woman, while ignoring so much other crap. Says a lot.
    Yeah - I can spot an anti-Semite real easily. I've had to deal with many in my lifetime.
    Warm feelings guy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Yeah - I can spot an anti-Semite real easily. I've had to deal with many in my lifetime.
    are you Jewish ?

    should you be - I would more understand some of your stances
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    Quote Originally Posted by 57Brave View Post
    are you Jewish ?

    should you be - I would more understand some of your stances
    I am - Not practicing and haven't since my Bar Mitzvah as I don't believe in the organized aspect of religion.
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    that explains some of your more extreme views.
    But leaves me puzzled why you would not understand Rep Talib's points
    or Minister Farrakhan for that matter.

    I think the Pats well understood the Chargers point Sunday . And visa versa
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    Chris Lu
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    Take this in: there are now three House Republicans

    with no committee assignments.

    Two are under indictment.

    One supports white supremacists.

    Another telling sign that the Party of Lincoln
    has become the Party of Trump.
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    I am one degree of separation from Congressman King. I was talking to one of the school superintendents I work with and he told me that when when he was still teaching, his school district was right next to the legislative district where King lived. This goes back a few years, but the superintendent told me that King was a quiet and unassuming guy when he first met him and stayed that way through his tenure in the Iowa State Legislature. Only when he got to Washington did he turn into what we are seeing now in terms of behavior. Maybe the beliefs were there from the get-go for King, but it seems he waited until he was on the national stage to make them known. Of course, he is a good friend of former Member of Congress Michelle Bachman, and I can personally attest to the fact she was pretty loony from the beginning of her public career.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 50PoundHead View Post
    I am one degree of separation from Congressman King. I was talking to one of the school superintendents I work with and he told me that when when he was still teaching, his school district was right next to the legislative district where King lived. This goes back a few years, but the superintendent told me that King was a quiet and unassuming guy when he first met him and stayed that way through his tenure in the Iowa State Legislature. Only when he got to Washington did he turn into what we are seeing now in terms of behavior. Maybe the beliefs were there from the get-go for King, but it seems he waited until he was on the national stage to make them known. Of course, he is a good friend of former Member of Congress Michelle Bachman, and I can personally attest to the fact she was pretty loony from the beginning of her public career.
    the radicalization process works in mysterious ways...i think it is a borderline form of mental disease...which unfortunately entire societies can get infected with
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    1st term Congresswoman referred to as (R) House leader calls for King resignation
    Known pictures of said Congressmen with accused war criminal.

    War criminal , acvused or convicted , trumps just about everything in the game of " gotcha "

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    Minds have been lost


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    Krystal Ball
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    Turns out @AOC’s “dangerous idea” supported by 59% of Americans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 57Brave View Post
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    Turns out @AOC’s “dangerous idea” supported by 59% of Americans.
    Majority of Americans don't understand math. Why does this surprise you?
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    52-48 you might have a point
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    57 - despite being explained numerous times how that tax is completely meaningless - still doesn't understand.

    Imagine the majority of the country who only have CNN?

    Ask France how their wealth tax worked out for them.

    As mentioned over and over... if you want socialism, just own up to it and celebrate the massive tax hikes on ALL Americans needed to achieve it. Why lie to the people? If the benefits are so good, why not just own it? Are you afraid middle class Americans don't want their tax rates going form 24% to 59%?

    The rich ain't gonna be able to get you there. Not even close

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    Through your thick skull --- this 59% approval of raising rates says, people aint buying your "explanation"

    Once again, tonight, you missed the point
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    sigh

    scary that people who know as much math as you do also vote

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    My sister in law was all in on Dave Ramsey when he first came on the radio and listened to him religiously and I think she bought one of hisDVR's or something.
    Then one night a friend of hers (not me) broke t to her, people that know and understand finance and economics aren't on the radio ( or TV so the discussion went when she brought up Cremer) they are actually making money or studying how to make more money or even better yet out spending those gains.

    A long time ago I learned that about the internet. And baseball boards specificaly

    The number says 59% which is pretty overwhelming on an issue of this sort
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    Quote Originally Posted by Julio3000 View Post
    Iím really not excited about weighing in here, but Iím going to give it the olí well-meaning try.

    Iím going to stipulate that I donít really see the ďpublicly deplore this Anti-Semite!Ē line as necessarily being in good faith, but Iím going to address it as if it were.

    As generally weak and marginalized as the American left is, one of the things I appreciate about it is that thereís less frank anti-Senitism than in some European countries with more robust leftist (as opposed to liberal) politics. That may have something to do with the fact that the American Jewish population is and has always been a significant part of the DNA of the left in this country. There are certainly other is historical factors, of course, but thatís worth keeping in mind.

    Another thing to consider is that (as 50 and 57 have mentioned) one canít just take any accusation of anti-Semitism from any source at face value, as it is so often conflated with any anti-Zionist or anti-Likudnik sentiment. That is not to say that anti-Semitism doesnít overlap in some of those circles. It does. But if you were connected to left politics you would see a lot of dialogue and a lot of criticism (and self-criticism) around issues of racism and anti-Semitism. Recently thereís been a lot of exploration of anti-Semitism in black America (where, in urban areas particularly, Jews were often viewed as exploiters) and of how Jews benefited from white supremacist policy. For my part, as a white Gentile, I just try to listen and learn. But those conversations happen, and IMO itís a better tool for effecting understanding and change than merely criticizing identity politics and insisting that history be cast aside and we pretend to live in a society thatís past such considerations.

    So as for Rep. Tlaib? I dunno. Palling around with a Hezbollah supporter is a bad look, and appears to indicate some really poor judgement, if not worse. Even at that, though, Iím not content with the terms of the debate here. I get off the bus well before endorsing Hezbollah or Hamas, but I have to ask: what form, given the context, would you expect opposition to occupation and expansionist policies to take? Itís likely not to be one that we wealthy, stable, comfortable Americans are comforted by. Iím not content to see people just railing against Iran without casting a critical eye towards US allies in the region, Israel and the Gulf States among them. Itís a big issue and thereís room for a more expansive view that values the human rights of EVERYONE involved.

    And, finally, I have to add that itís supremely ironic to see that tweet from ďThe Reagan Battalion,Ē ostensibly criticizing violent, drug-trafficking political movements in the ME, considering the Reagan Administrationís love for violent, drug-trafficking political movements in Central America, particularly the one illegally financed by arms sales to...Iran. Truly delicious.
    I'd encourage you to read this tweet threat and see if she's getting close to being a turd


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    what does the constitution say ?
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    Something about "democrats can proudly be racists with no consequences"

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