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    This crap might be the reason we arenít seeing any big trades. We wonít have a farm system in 5 years the way our FO is running crap.
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    This might be in accordance with a change towards a more analytical approach.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chico View Post
    This might be in accordance with a change towards a more analytical approach.
    Maybe. But why now. Why not 3 months ago. Doesn’t pass the sniff test for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oklahomabrave View Post
    Not sure why this is a surprise - there's absolutely no need for an eye test, just send us the data.
    The FO that needlessly promoted him early knew what they were doing and are paid to do this. We aren't, so we can't know more than them. Correction....they used to be paid to do this..

    I also don't see the reasoning behind signing DK over CK, and I'm going to assume the Braves can only afford one of them. Like Bumgarner, DK would be an improvement in the rotation, but it seems like CK would be a bigger improvement in the BP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bravesfanMatt View Post
    Maybe. But why now. Why not 3 months ago. Doesn’t pass the sniff test for me.
    Yeah the weird thing is that they both got new contracts in October. So they were extented and then fired

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    According to my source, this news is in direct correlation with the Stewart fiasco. Now this is not necessarily a precursor to us definitely losing the #9 pick but more or less the front office showing their disappointment that these two put the organization in the position of possibly losing the pick. When I talked to him tonight, he still feels like we will keep the pick. Just from the perception I got it was like "we're going to punish you because you made all this a possibility. Fair or unfair that's for everyone to decide on their own.

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    The problem with blaming the Stewart situation on Bridges and Clark is that it goes much higher than that. When you've got the 8th pick in the draft, it's not like Bridges and Clark are the only ones involved in the decision here.

    Baseball America was also saying we'll hire an interim type of senior leader to help for this draft and then hire a new scouting director when the draft is over. Nothing like going into a draft with two first rounders and not even having a scouting director employed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blueagleace1 View Post
    According to my source, this news is in direct correlation with the Stewart fiasco. Now this is not necessarily a precursor to us definitely losing the #9 pick but more or less the front office showing their disappointment that these two put the organization in the position of possibly losing the pick. When I talked to him tonight, he still feels like we will keep the pick. Just from the perception I got it was like "we're going to punish you because you made all this a possibility. Fair or unfair that's for everyone to decide on their own.

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    All that makes sense except for the timing. Why sign them to new one year deal in October and fire them in January. What changed since then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oklahomabrave View Post
    All that makes sense except for the timing. Why sign them to new one year deal in October and fire them in January. What changed since then.
    Possibly loosing the #9 pick i would imagine...

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    Braves will not lose the pick. Grievance resolved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oklahomabrave View Post
    All that makes sense except for the timing. Why sign them to new one year deal in October and fire them in January. What changed since then.
    From my understanding, the grievance filed on behalf of Stewart was just completed recently. I'm just passing on what little I've been told.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deester11 View Post
    Braves will not lose the pick. Grievance resolved.
    Phew.

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    I still wonder if the Braves came damn close to losing due to something with Bridges.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mqt View Post
    I still wonder if the Braves came damn close to losing due to something with Bridges.
    You have to think thatís the case...

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    Quote Originally Posted by mqt View Post
    I still wonder if the Braves came damn close to losing due to something with Bridges.
    Soon we will hear it was really Bridges that gave that car to Waters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mqt View Post
    I still wonder if the Braves came damn close to losing due to something with Bridges.

    After thinking about it, I just don't see how the decision on what to tender Carter Stewart or the mechanics of it ended up being a Bridges decision.

    Once it became clear to the organization that they were not interested in signing Stewart to slot money because of his injury, it had to have become a GM level decision. They had to have put the in-house lawyers and rules people on researching exactly what they had to do to protect themselves.

    If that didn't happen, that's more of an indictment on AA than Bridges. But I feel sure that it did happen.

    I suspect this firing is more related to general approach to the draft and scouting and possibly simply being organized than it was to any one mistake.

    I would think it is more likely the change in course would be related to a failure to implement what AA has said he wanted.

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    He could also have been tired of all the pitching guys they wanted to use 1st round picks on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Southcack77 View Post
    After thinking about it, I just don't see how the decision on what to tender Carter Stewart or the mechanics of it ended up being a Bridges decision.

    Once it became clear to the organization that they were not interested in signing Stewart to slot money because of his injury, it had to have become a GM level decision. They had to have put the in-house lawyers and rules people on researching exactly what they had to do to protect themselves.

    If that didn't happen, that's more of an indictment on AA than Bridges. But I feel sure that it did happen.

    I suspect this firing is more related to general approach to the draft and scouting and possibly simply being organized than it was to any one mistake.

    I would think it is more likely the change in course would be related to a failure to implement what AA has said he wanted.
    I suppose one could pass negative judgment on Bridges and Clark for drafting Stewart in the first place after failing to do due diligence on his injury status, but the final decision here has to rest with Anthopolous. I've been a big fan of Roy Clark over the years and he won't be out of work that long. Curious to see what direction they go. If the scouts in the field aren't shuffled around, it probably won't have too big of an effect in the short term because there are so many showcases these days that there is a veritable mountain of data on and observation of most draft-eligible players. Interesting angle will be who will be pulling the trigger on the decisions.

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    Iím sure it was a combination of things, and something about the Stewart fiasco was the final straw.

    The Braves have been weeding out the dinosaurs pretty consistently now that AA is making the Braves the Dodgers of the South. It may have taken some time to get the analytics at the amateur level to a place where they could fully shift gears to modern day scouting.

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