I think you misspelled “working class.”Originally Posted by nsacpi
I think you misspelled “working class.”
ha...well I try not to confound working class with angry and boorish
"I am a victim, I will tell you. I am a victim."
"I am your retribution."
A couple national polls:
CNN Biden up 10 over chosen one, Sanders up 7 over chosen one
Quinnipiac Biden up 11 over chosen one, Sanders up 7 over chosen one
Not dispositive, but certainly a hint as to which of Biden or Sanders will be stronger in the general elections.
I will support either one. And I think at this point both would start out as favored.
"I am a victim, I will tell you. I am a victim."
"I am your retribution."
You realize pre-dementia Biden couldn't beat Hillary, so if Hillary is "fairly terrible" what does that make Biden? Extra fairly terrible with dementia?
Stockholm, more densely populated than NYC - sturg
Different times.
I think you underestimate how many Republicans like nsacpi out there have left the party and want to get Trump out and hit the reset button ovee the revolution button.
I was a Bernie guy, but the more important factor is Trump getting out of office.
If millenials turned out for Bernie on super Tuesday he'd be the favorite. But they didn't so now time to focus energy on Biden.
Forever Fredi
I tend to think there are more republicans willing to vote for Trump this time around who didn't vote for him last time (I'm one of those) as opposed to folks like nscapi. I could be wrong, but seem like Trump has pretty strong republican support. I think if you're on the left and you watch shows like MSNBC and CNN it appears that there are more never trumpers than there really is.
I think it's going to come down to this virus. If it goes away and the economy comes back then Trump has a pretty good chance to win, unless there is some crazy October surprise out there. It's just hard to present Trump as an imminent threat that we must get rid of after 4 years of a pretty successful presidency. Again, this assumes that we come back strong from the virus.
thank you weso1!
Krgrecw (03-09-2020)
That's a big bet to be placing on a presidential candidate with signs of dementia.
Stockholm, more densely populated than NYC - sturg
Biden and Sanders are well within the margin of error of each other. Which means that polls, which generally trend to older crowd, show potentially no difference between Biden and Sanders.
Also keep in mind that march 2016 polls Clinton was +10 or more to Trump. Don't trust the polls. Use your head. Biden will energize no one other than maybe the black vote, but Bernie could easily cut a deal to get Obama to campaign for him in Philly, Detroit, and Virginia to get the black vote out.
Seriously, the entirety of this election is being founded on Biden getting the Black vote because of his proximity to Obama, not his actions as a Senator. And because he's "safe"
Stockholm, more densely populated than NYC - sturg
Millennials did show up on Super Tuesday. Bernie curb stomped Biden in California and pulled really close in Texas. I don't think of Virginia, Alabama, and Oklahoma as bastions of liberal youth.
There's nothing the Biden campaign wants more than to lock up these states now and get momentum, because a Bernie upset in a state like PA, MI or Wisconsin doesn't bode well for Biden as he's campaigning hard in those states.
Stockholm, more densely populated than NYC - sturg
He didn't run in 2016.
We talking about Trump now?
How are Cali and Texas gonna change whether it's Biden or Sanders?
"Donald Trump will serve a second term as president of the United States.
It’s over."
Little Thethe Nov 19, 2020.
Did you forget that 2008 didn't happen or something?
Stockholm, more densely populated than NYC - sturg
Yes Trump has similar signs. But he is the incumbent. You don't beat an incumbent by running someone who looks more out of touch than a billionaire with dementia.
"Donald Trump will serve a second term as president of the United States.
It’s over."
Little Thethe Nov 19, 2020.
These arent even the vicious ads Trump will run. These are by people that will probably "swallow it" and vote for Biden. I think thats a perfect slogan for their campaign "swallow it".
"Donald Trump will serve a second term as president of the United States.
It’s over."
Little Thethe Nov 19, 2020.
Michigan called for Biden, who has a 12 point lead at the moment.
Carp (03-11-2020)
I guess not enough of the yut turned out for Bernie
Carp (03-11-2020)
You misspelled ‘working class’ again
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