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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post

    Your candidates support socialism. Socialism is what is happening in venezuela.
    hahaha
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    i love a good "this is why we have the 2nd amendment" comment

    but i'm always curious when they will agree that killing cops and military etc is ok with that 2nd amendment usage

    always seems to come up way short of supporting those that the 2nd amendment would be used against for some reason
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    Quote Originally Posted by goldfly View Post
    i love a good "this is why we have the 2nd amendment" comment

    but i'm always curious when they will agree that killing cops and military etc is ok with that 2nd amendment usage

    always seems to come up way short of supporting those that the 2nd amendment would be used against for some reason
    When you have a totalitarian government as we often find in countries that embrace socialism.

    I'm guessing you support Maduro.
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    Quote Originally Posted by goldfly View Post
    hahaha
    What is funny?

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    Quote Originally Posted by goldfly View Post
    i love a good "this is why we have the 2nd amendment" comment

    but i'm always curious when they will agree that killing cops and military etc is ok with that 2nd amendment usage

    always seems to come up way short of supporting those that the 2nd amendment would be used against for some reason
    Yeah. When the police and military turn on the people then the guns should turn on them.

    Sadly the people in Venezuela don't have that option

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    Nor do the people of Flint, Michigan
    Still no safe drinking water

    Capitalism,democracy etc aint worth **** if you cant drink the water

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    the continued use of venezuela as "see socialism doesn't work" while overlooking the democratic socialism countries that are happening through europe that people actually want to be like is hilarious


    i know, it doesn't fit your narrative

    thus why it doesn't happen

    also known as being intellectually dishonest


    like trump, **** Maduro
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    by your definition/post

    you could make an easy argument that the people should turn the guns on cops in this country right now

    thus why i don't believe any 2nd amendment advocate that just throws out the "this is why we have the 2nd amendment"
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    Quote Originally Posted by goldfly View Post
    the continued use of venezuela as "see socialism doesn't work" while overlooking the democratic socialism countries that are happening through europe that people actually want to be like is hilarious


    i know, it doesn't fit your narrative

    thus why it doesn't happen

    also known as being intellectually dishonest


    like trump, **** Maduro
    Lol "democratic" socialism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    Lol "democratic" socialism.
    I always enjoy how the left comes up with new terms when the old labels become unpopular. “Liberal” isn’t working so let’s call ourselves “progressives.” “Socialism” is ugly so let’s slap “democratic” before it to soften the blow. There’s never any meaningful definitions for the distinctions between these terms, it’s just marketing.

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    i really don't care what you want to call it honestly

    i would like for us to be more like european countries on that scale and not venezuela or cuba
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    oh look thethe is trying to act like he cares about lying and now thinks the post is good

    how convient
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    The splinter group Democratic Socialists of America has been around since the 1980s. I used to know the Minnesota state director for the group. It's nothing new. They were Ocasio-Cortez before Ocasio-Cortez was born. They were Bernie bros when Bernie was the Mayor of Burlington.

    There gets to be this meme that there is no way that socialism (or broad-based initiatives where public dollars are spent on making benefits more widely available to the general public) can be democratic; that the terms are somehow mutually exclusive. That simply isn't the case. I'm not a full-blown socialist, but I really get tired of this image that the country is going socialist and the only apparel available for sale will be powder blue jumpsuits and everyone will subsist on a diet of stale Wheat Chex.

    Western Europe, for all its problems, has used higher tax rates to provide a broader base of programs to address what those societies view as basic human needs. There is clearly tension in those countries now, but most of that tension is fueled by the belief that immigrants are coming to their countries to soak up the benefits of the expansive safety net. The right-wingers in Denmark hate immigrants, but they love the state-run health care program. I could be wrong, but I've never heard Marie Le Pen say "Elect me and I will dismantle France's state-run health care program."

    Given the trajectory of the past few decades, I doubt we will ever see a dramatic move toward the level of public investment of Western Europe. Americans have simply lost sight of the fact that if you want something, you have to pay for it. The Trump/Congressional agreement on infrastructure will likely die the minute someone suggests that it won't be free to Americans and that the gas tax (at either the federal or state levels) or some other funding mechanism will have to either be raised or created to cover the costs.

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    thinking this an attempt at sarcasm --- wondering what is your point and what does it have to do with the 2020 election.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 57Brave View Post
    thinking this an attempt at sarcasm --- wondering what is your point and what does it have to do with the 2020 election.
    He's running.

    And not sure what his point is.

    Isn't this the guy that said the govt would nukes the people if they didnt turn over their guns?

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    Kirsten Gillibrand’s idea to have super duper millionaires subsidize us all to the tune of $600 so we can then donate the money to the parasitic politicians of our choosing is almost as bad and offensive as the video she tweeted showing herself playing beer pong with water.

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    The President’s lawyer asked the Ukrainian government for damaging

    information on Joe Biden.

    How is this not the Trump Tower meeting all over again?
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    The State Department allowed at least seven foreign governments

    to rent luxury condos in New York's Trump World Tower in 2017 without

    approval from Congress, stirring more emoluments concerns,

    according to Reuters.
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