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    Quote Originally Posted by zbhargrove View Post
    Something I can actually agree with you on.
    If Biden picks anyone who isn't from the loony bin progressive wing of the party, I'll consider it a win. Nothing he does will actually motivate me to go to the polls and pull the lever for him, but the right VP may make me prefer him to Trump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by acesfull86 View Post
    If Biden picks anyone who isn't from the loony bin progressive wing of the party, I'll consider it a win. Nothing he does will actually motivate me to go to the polls and pull the lever for him, but the right VP may make me prefer him to Trump.
    If its Abrams or Warren, etc... I will be voting 3rd party yet again... if its Klobuchar, I will likely vote Biden.

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    Quote Originally Posted by acesfull86 View Post
    If Biden picks anyone who isn't from the loony bin progressive wing of the party, I'll consider it a win. Nothing he does will actually motivate me to go to the polls and pull the lever for him, but the right VP may make me prefer him to Trump.
    The vote isn't for biden as is. They will invoke the 25th amendment on him within 6 months.
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    Quote Originally Posted by acesfull86 View Post
    If Biden picks anyone who isn't from the loony bin progressive wing of the party, I'll consider it a win. Nothing he does will actually motivate me to go to the polls and pull the lever for him, but the right VP may make me prefer him to Trump.
    I think the looney left and probably some other members of the left want him to pick Warren, I guess as some sort of "olive branch" to the Bernie supporters. I don't want any part of Kamala or Warren personally. I actually think Amy K. is the best of the lot if he follows through with his promise to pick a woman. If memory serves even thethe agreed she is the most reasonable sounding of all the female Dem candidates this time around. It still wouldn't shock me to see some sort of "mystery choice" at some point but that's just my 2 cents worth. I don't have 1/1000 of the time to study and research this stuff as some of our board mates.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oklahomahawk View Post
    I think the looney left and probably some other members of the left want him to pick Warren, I guess as some sort of "olive branch" to the Bernie supporters. I don't want any part of Kamala or Warren personally. I actually think Amy K. is the best of the lot if he follows through with his promise to pick a woman. If memory serves even thethe agreed she is the most reasonable sounding of all the female Dem candidates this time around. It still wouldn't shock me to see some sort of "mystery choice" at some point but that's just my 2 cents worth. I don't have 1/1000 of the time to study and research this stuff as some of our board mates.
    I was very hopeful for Klobuchar... one of the last true centrists around that actually has some popularity...

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    Quote Originally Posted by zbhargrove View Post
    I was very hopeful for Klobuchar... one of the last true centrists around that actually has some popularity...
    Agreed. Unfortunately she isn't eye candy (relatively speaking) like Tulsi, or whatever you want to call it candy like Warren. Not sure how to even classify Kamala, cool name but that's about it for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    The vote isn't for biden as is. They will invoke the 25th amendment on him within 6 months.
    As someone who has grown to despise both major parties, the one thing I don't want above all else is the progressive wing of the Democratic party growing in power or popularity. A Trump win could spur them on, since they'll be able to point to two consecutive establishment candidates losing to Trump. Then in 4 years we're looking at a true progressive vs a PBTNL for the Republicans, which could go really south.

    If Biden beats Trump and has Klobuchar as the VP, it keeps some clown from the Sanders/AOC/Warren wing of the party running until at least 2028. It would also give the Republicans 4 years to get their act together, wrestle the party away from Trump (I know you don't want this, but many do), and find a candidate to knock off an extremely beatable Biden in '24, assuming he isn't fully demented and removed before that point. That path looks a little more appetizing to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by acesfull86 View Post
    As someone who has grown to despise both major parties, the one thing I don't want above all else is the progressive wing of the Democratic party growing in power or popularity. A Trump win could spur them on, since they'll be able to point to two consecutive establishment candidates losing to Trump. Then in 4 years we're looking at a true progressive vs a PBTNL for the Republicans, which could go really south.

    If Biden beats Trump and has Klobuchar as the VP, it keeps some clown from the Sanders/AOC/Warren wing of the party running until at least 2028. It would also give the Republicans 4 years to get their act together, wrestle the party away from Trump (I know you don't want this, but many do), and find a candidate to knock off an extremely beatable Biden in '24, assuming he isn't fully demented and removed before that point. That path looks a little more appetizing to me.
    To each his own.

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    Trump clearly hates Jews.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Trump clearly hates Jews.
    We have federal court cases of him literally hating black people

    But he throws out dog whistles of anti-semitism for sure
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    Quote Originally Posted by acesfull86 View Post
    As someone who has grown to despise both major parties, the one thing I don't want above all else is the progressive wing of the Democratic party growing in power or popularity. A Trump win could spur them on, since they'll be able to point to two consecutive establishment candidates losing to Trump. Then in 4 years we're looking at a true progressive vs a PBTNL for the Republicans, which could go really south.

    If Biden beats Trump and has Klobuchar as the VP, it keeps some clown from the Sanders/AOC/Warren wing of the party running until at least 2028. It would also give the Republicans 4 years to get their act together, wrestle the party away from Trump (I know you don't want this, but many do), and find a candidate to knock off an extremely beatable Biden in '24, assuming he isn't fully demented and removed before that point. That path looks a little more appetizing to me.
    Progressive policies for the most part poll in the 60% range
    Proving again, if you cant win on policy ( guns,tax policy,education health environment) you work from politics ( judicial,FOX echo machine , voter suppression Mitch) and if you still cant win on that you fight with the personal (AOC-- a regular punching bag of Hannity,Limbaugh, Shapiro etal. "Sanders yells too much yada yada yada )

    What policies of Progressives ignites this fear of Progressive power and popularity ?

    It is astonishing how a young,first term female Latino Congressperson "triggers" the right.
    That seems a troubling demographic to (R) proponents
    So just say it. You dont want female POC in postions of authority.
    The sooner we get that out of the way we can have a discussion
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