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    https://reason.com/2019/11/05/elizab...icare-for-all/

    For Warren, however, realism is clearly not the point. She released the plan after months of pressure to explain precisely how she would finance the tens of trillions in new government spending that even the cheapest, most efficient version of a full-fledged single-payer system would require. Like a general insisting on the size of his army by lining up row after row of mannequins and scarecrows, Warren has enlisted a legion of implausible savings mechanisms and unworkable tax hikes in hopes of cobbling together something that looks convincing from afar.

    Her goal was not to figure out how to pay for single-payer, or outline the political challenges and economic tradeoffs that it might entail, but to produce a document sufficiently festooned with technocratic jargon and data points drawn from savings projections that did not pan out all so that she could say she had a plan to finance the program, dismiss her critics, and then change the subject.

    Warren has not come up with a plan to pay for Medicare for All. Instead, she has concocted a $52 trillion package of fanciful assumptions, unworkable reforms, and psuedo-wonky gobbledygook, and figured out how to pay for that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by acesfull86 View Post
    https://reason.com/2019/11/05/elizab...icare-for-all/

    For Warren, however, realism is clearly not the point. She released the plan after months of pressure to explain precisely how she would finance the tens of trillions in new government spending that even the cheapest, most efficient version of a full-fledged single-payer system would require. Like a general insisting on the size of his army by lining up row after row of mannequins and scarecrows, Warren has enlisted a legion of implausible savings mechanisms and unworkable tax hikes in hopes of cobbling together something that looks convincing from afar.

    Her goal was not to figure out how to pay for single-payer, or outline the political challenges and economic tradeoffs that it might entail, but to produce a document sufficiently festooned with technocratic jargon and data points drawn from savings projections that did not pan out all so that she could say she had a plan to finance the program, dismiss her critics, and then change the subject.

    Warren has not come up with a plan to pay for Medicare for All. Instead, she has concocted a $52 trillion package of fanciful assumptions, unworkable reforms, and psuedo-wonky gobbledygook, and figured out how to pay for that.
    would have been better if she had promised mexico would pay for it
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    Big win for (D) in Kentucky. Bevin had been running as a Trump-disciple for the last year. I was supposed to work on Beshear's campaign this year but wans't able to. My friend was running the Dem Party's races.
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    Virginia swings full dem control and the gov of Kentucky goes Democrat too

    Nice

    Guess some people are just tired of “winning”

    I’m sure thethe will be by in the next couple days to say why this is a good sign for a landslide next year
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    Beshear pledged to return 140 000 to voter roles and restore ACA.
    McConnell up for re-election in 2020.
    This is getting interesting

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Chosen One View Post
    Big win for (D) in Kentucky. Bevin had been running as a Trump-disciple for the last year. I was supposed to work on Beshear's campaign this year but wans't able to. My friend was running the Dem Party's races.
    Shocked at this news. Beshear was behind when I left the house this morning.

    Coal country and back mountain Kentucky voting against Trump, Rand Paul, McConnell for a Dem Governor!?! What in the world could cause that???
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    Its definitely bad for unborn Virginians and legal gun owners

    Good for blackface and sexual.abuser enablers

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    Lol


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    Quote Originally Posted by 57Brave View Post
    Beshear pledged to return 140 000 to voter roles and restore ACA.
    McConnell up for re-election in 2020.
    This is getting interesting
    We coming for ya Moscow Mitch!
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    Lol, great breakdown of VA from freedom boy. Haha
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    Interesting NYTimes piece on the "swing" voter:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/05/u...edit_th_191106

    Today’s America is so deeply polarized that it can be hard to imagine there are people who are really not sure whether they want to vote for President Trump or his Democratic rival.
    But these “mythic,” “quasi-talismanic,” “unicorn” swing voters are very real, and there are enough of them to decide the next presidential election.

    They are similar in holding ideologically inconsistent views, but they otherwise span all walks of life, based on an analysis of 569 respondents to recent New York Times Upshot/Siena College surveys in the six closest states carried by the president in the 2016 presidential election.

    These voters represent 15 percent of the electorate in the battleground states, and they say there’s a chance they’ll vote for either Mr. Trump or the Democrat.

    They don’t neatly fit archetypes of swing voters like so-called suburban soccer moms. In fact, men are likelier to be undecided than women. And they are not necessarily the white voters without a college degree, particularly in the Midwest, who decided the last election.

    The poll adds a new mix of characters to the quadrennial cast of swing voters, like a somewhat conservative, college-educated suburban man who does not approve of the president’s performance, but strongly opposes a single-payer health system. Or a young man, perhaps even black or Latino, who is not conservative on policy but resents his generation’s stringent cultural norms and appreciates the president’s defiant critique of political correctness.

    For now, these persuadable voters in battleground states have a favorable view of Joe Biden and Bernie Sanders, but not of Elizabeth Warren, our polling shows.
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    i see thethe is still waiting on the talking points
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    Quote Originally Posted by goldfly View Post
    i see thethe is still waiting on the talking points
    thethe is too proud to stoop to Lindsey Graham's level...Graham is now floating a trial balloon for the "incapacity" defense

    besides I hear thethe was having lunch with Roger Stone today along with Milo and Posobiec
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    Why do I need talking points?

    Was trump on the ballot and lost?

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    Quote Originally Posted by goldfly View Post
    Lol, great breakdown of VA from freedom boy. Haha

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    Wow Republicans lost to that? People must really hate them right now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Why do I need talking points?

    Was trump on the ballot and lost?
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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    Bloomberg throws his hat in the ring.
    So, Bloomberg and de Blasio in the race, Giuliani a central figure affecting it, where the **** are Mario Cuomo and Ed Koch?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    Mother****ers acting like Roy Moore isn't a thing. And I'm willing to hedge my bet that this person calls members of the MeToo movement SJW.
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