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    Quote Originally Posted by AerchAngel View Post
    Has anyone looked at Blyleven stats, that is unheard of in todays pitching?
    Yeah he was insanely good. Sad that it took him as long as it did to make the HOF. Just further proves that the idiots looking at wins as the main component of a pitchers success were ****ing stupid.

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    Did we sign Blyleven? How many innings is he planning on going today?
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    Quote Originally Posted by thewupk View Post
    Yeah he was insanely good. Sad that it took him as long as it did to make the HOF. Just further proves that the idiots looking at wins as the main component of a pitchers success were ****ing stupid.
    I think the problem with the Dutchman was not his wins (287 is a lot) but the losses (250) which is somehow a worst statistic than pitching wins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chop2chip View Post
    I think the problem with the Dutchman was not his wins (287 is a lot) but the losses (250) which is somehow a worst statistic than pitching wins.
    he pitched for a lot of bad teams...and he usually pitched well enough to be left in long enough to pick up a decision...that's my positive spin on the losses and i'm sticking with it
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    Blyleven kind of got the Don Sutton treatment vis-a-vis the Hall of Fame. Long career and, as AA said, the curve ball of all curve balls. But the guy was (and still is) a total flake. Ron Shelton was channeling Bert Blyleven when he wrote the character Nuke LaLoosh. I got to see him pitch several times early in his career. His big problem was an inability to pitch through bad luck. One wrong bounce or a misplay behind him and he would melt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 50PoundHead View Post
    Blyleven kind of got the Don Sutton treatment vis-a-vis the Hall of Fame. Long career and, as AA said, the curve ball of all curve balls. But the guy was (and still is) a total flake. Ron Shelton was channeling Bert Blyleven when he wrote the character Nuke LaLoosh. I got to see him pitch several times early in his career. His big problem was an inability to pitch through bad luck. One wrong bounce or a misplay behind him and he would melt.
    I think you are right. He tend to lose it and scowl because someone made a mistake and the manager keeps him out there.

    As for his curveball, maybe Enscheff can tell us his break but what I saw from him, I thought guys were like scared to see it. I don't remember him throwing that hard but that curveball, man it was a sight to see. It broke a lot and from 12 to 6 as well. I thought he was cheating.

    When all baseball sites said he has one of the best ever, got to give it up to him.

    But almost struck out 3800 hitters and that is darn impressive.

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    With the way Fried, Wright, Toussaint and Wilson are pitching, pitching crisis has turned into pitching surplus.

    mods please close thread
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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    With the way Fried, Wright, Toussaint and Wilson are pitching, pitching crisis has turned into pitching surplus.

    mods please close thread
    These guys are all pushing their way into the rotation equation. Seeing who gets forced out in the process will be fascinating.

    I still think Wright is the best of the bunch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    These guys are all pushing their way into the rotation equation. Seeing who gets forced out in the process will be fascinating.

    I still think Wright is the best of the bunch.
    Fried. thethe is the best evaluator of talent on this board

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    thethe is the best evaluator of talent on this board
    bar none
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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Fried. thethe is the best evaluator of talent on this board
    Still waiting on Allard to reach Top 20 prospect status as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Fried. thethe is the best evaluator of talent on this board
    Well yeah. It was painful round here when he went on hiatus. No one would offer any projection on insight!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    Still waiting on Allard to reach Top 20 prospect status as well.
    I'm also waiting on Jace Peterson to eclipse 3.4 WAR in his first 6 seasons of team control. Just 3.8 more WAR to go

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    bar none
    Someone mentioned bar? Who's buying the first round???
    Waters is intersting too. Would prefer a guy that projects to more power though. (2017 Draft Thread)

    If they don't make additions they can expect the same 3-5 win improvement they saw last year. That makes the Braves a 75-78 win team. (What's the best we could hope for in 2018?)


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    Gausman can't make it out of the 1st inning and topped out at 87 MPH. Crisis reinstated

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    Quote Originally Posted by thewupk View Post
    Gausman can't make it out of the 1st inning and topped out at 87 MPH. Crisis reinstated
    mods...I withdraw my request
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    It looks like our kids are going to get plenty of opportunities on the mound. Hell we are gonna have Freddy Tarnok getting starts at this rate.

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    Paging Mr. Dallas Keuchel

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay212033 View Post
    Paging Mr. Dallas Keuchel
    We apparently aren't in on him right now. He or Kimbrel. I'd still add, Keuchel, but that's me.
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    Interesting note I hadn't heard mentioned anywhere just talked about on XM -

    Remember someone pointed out Julio's fastball was already touching 93 in his last outing? The 2019 camp BSOML winner may very well be Teheran. The fact that he doesn't usually work at that velocity until things warm up in June may actually not be a mirage - he apparently put on 17 pounds over the offseason. Didn't notice he looked much bigger in the early camp pictures, but there were only a couple I saw.

    Wake up and report something Bowman!!!
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    Waters is intersting too. Would prefer a guy that projects to more power though. (2017 Draft Thread)

    If they don't make additions they can expect the same 3-5 win improvement they saw last year. That makes the Braves a 75-78 win team. (What's the best we could hope for in 2018?)


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