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    Gray was pulled after 2.2 ip (71 pitches)

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Gray was pulled after 2.2 ip (71 pitches)
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    Waters and Pache starting the season in AA
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    That's a good deal for the Red Sox that Bogaerts signed. Looks like about $6M per expected win. Bargain.
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    Interesting. Wasn't waters cf last year?

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Interesting. Wasn't waters cf last year?
    think so. seems they're starting the shift to corner
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    Quote Originally Posted by Super View Post
    think so. seems they're starting the shift to corner
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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    That's a good deal for the Red Sox that Bogaerts signed. Looks like about $6M per expected win. Bargain.
    You didn’t mention the opt out.

    The Red Sox will not be getting that type of rate if Xander opts in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    You didn’t mention the opt out.

    The Red Sox will not be getting that type of rate if Xander opts in.
    The deal is good even with the opt out. Although that reduces its value some.

    Its actually very likely he opts out. Something like an 80-90% probability.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    The deal is good even with the opt out. Although that reduces its value some.

    Its actually very likely he opts out. Something like an 80-90% probability.
    While that 80-90% figure is completely arbitrary, what the Sox actually did was take in the risk of Xander collapsing in exchange for control over a couple FA years.

    A similar opt out may be a way to get Acuna to sign. It pushes more risk to the team, but it may be the only way to get more prime seasons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    While that 80-90% figure is completely arbitrary, what the Sox actually did was take in the risk of Xander collapsing in exchange for control over a couple FA years.

    A similar opt out may be a way to get Acuna to sign. It pushes more risk to the team, but it may be the only way to get more prime seasons.


    The opt out comes after 2022, which is Bogaerts age 30 season. What are the odds that Bogaerts performance declines so much that he won't be priced as a 2 win or better player for his 2023 and 2024 seasons? Even if he declines some by age 30, I think the odds are pretty high he will exceed the threshold for being priced at better than a 2 win player for his ages 31-32 season.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    The opt out comes after 2022, which is Bogaerts age 30 season. What are the odds that Bogaerts performance declines so much that he won't be priced as a 2 win or better player for his 2023 and 2024 seasons? Even if he declines some by age 30, I think the odds are pretty high he will exceed the threshold for being priced at better than a 2 win player for his ages 31-32 season.
    I’m not sure why every discussion with you ends up being over semantics lately, but here goes...

    A value can be arbitrary without being incorrect. Nowhere did I claim he was particularly likely to collapse, only that it’s a non-zero likelihood.

    What’s not arbitrary is the fact the Red Sox took on additional risk by giving Xander the opt out. Taking on that additional risk may have been what allowed the extension to happen at all.

    A similar opt out may be what it takes to get Acuna to extend.

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    The thought of an Acuna, Waters, Pache outfield with them all hitting their ceiling is ridiculous fun to think about.

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    Scherzer vs Harper and that new phillies' lineup tonight. Should be a good game

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Scherzer vs Harper and that new phillies' lineup tonight. Should be a good game
    Can both teams lose?

    I still think the Nats have the best talent of any team in the division so I'll keep wanting them to lose for right now.

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