Around The Majors 2019

[The Chosen One]

Yankees and Twins pursuing package deal for Stroman.

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2019/...blue-jays.html

thethethe rumor seems to have inflated his value

Jays are smart. To give up the big package you gotta get a big package in return.

[Southcack77]

Greene would certainly be good enough to help, but he's not exactly dominant.

[UNCBlue012]

Greene would certainly be good enough to help, but he's not exactly dominant.

He's surely gotten the job done this year and may be a bit under Will Smith in terms of price.

[Enscheff]

Shane Greene is 30 years old, and controlled for 2020 if FG is to be believed. He made $4M this year, will be going into Arb for the last time, and has 1 MiLB option remaining.

Nobody with any baseball acumen is fooled by the 1.09 ERA. His xwOBA values since converting from a SP:

2016: .283
2017: .310
2018: .322
2019: .288

He has been much better during those years vs RHH (.286 xwOBA) than LHH (.344 xwOBA), so he should be used accordingly.

He is not an elite BP arm, but he appears to be reliable...at least as reliable as BP arms can be. This would be a fine addition for the right price, but that price isn't very high.

I would still prefer the Braves pay market rate for an elite BP rental (2-3 FV 40s, maybe a 45) and get Smith. Of course, a Greene acquisition doesn't necessarily mean they won't also make a run at Smith.

[nsacpi]

Shane Greene is 30 years old, and controlled for 2020 if FG is to be believed. He made $4M this year, will be going into Arb for the last time, and has 1 MiLB opton remaining.

Nobody with any baseball acumen is fooled by the 1.09 ERA. His xwOBA values since converting from a SP:

2016: .283
2017: .310
2018: .322
2019: .288

He has been much better during those years vs RHH (.286 xwOBA) than LHH (.344 xwOBA), so he should be used accordingly.

He is not an elite BP arm, but he appears to be reliable...at least as reliable as BP arms can be. This would be a fine addition for the right price, but that price isn't very high.

I would still prefer the Braves pay market rate for an elite BP rental (2-3 FV 40s, maybe a 45) and get Smith. Of course, a Greene acquisition doesn't necessarily mean they won't also make a run at Smith.

It seems to me there is a better case for acquiring a lefty reliever than a righty. We simply have more options from the right side, including guys like Wilson and Gausman, who have been starting but could end up reliever later this season.

[msstate7]

Phillies have 2.4 fWAR out of their catchers. Braves have 2 fWAR...lol

It might be even had Contreras not verbally abused flowers

[msstate7]

They have 0 shot at winning anything with that team so best thing they could do is sell and add some pieces for the future.

Most likely right, I've just been keeping up with them bc I'm interested in Watson, smith, and bumgarner... since June 1st, they're 19-14. They have 7 games right off the bat vs teams ahead of them... just something I'm monitoring

[CyYoung31]

If they still had their old front office, I guarantee you they'd be doing everything they could to win this year and wouldn't even entertain the notion of trading off Bum or their relievers. Their FO is much smarter now so I think they'll be selling by mid-late July.

The NL is incredibly weird this year, though. There is only one team that is obviously 100% out of contention and they really don't have any assets that would carry much value on the market. Well, they have a couple but they are all very controllable and young so they won't be trading them. The Giants will probably sell, but I can't say that with 100% certainty. I'm not sure what the Mets are gonna do. As for the rest, I don't see any of them going into sell mode.

The AL is the opposite. There are 5 teams that are definite sellers and two more that probably should be.

Same as last year. NL is the superior league.

[Southcack77]

I hadn't realized how great Realmuto has been defensively this year. He has a 10 DRS on defense. But his first half on offense wasn't anything special, but still good for a catcher (.766 OPS).

He’s always been very good defender. Below average framer, but that’s ticked up towards average.

[UNCBlue012]

And here we go: "The Astros, Twins, Braves and Brewers are among the clubs interested in Bumgarner, according to major-league sources."

Please don't.

[Southcack77]

And here we go: "The Astros, Twins, Braves and Brewers are among the clubs interested in Bumgarner, according to major-league sources."

Please don't.

It's ok to be interested.

[Super]

i think it's fine to gauge the cost for MadBum...i just think it will cost more than he's worth.

[nsacpi]

i think it's fine to gauge the cost for MadBum...i just think it will cost more than he's worth.

If he and Wheeler both get traded, it will be interesting to compare the returns.

[msstate7]

If he and Wheeler both get traded, it will be interesting to compare the returns.

How much would the difference in salary affect return (bumgarner 12 per, wheeler 6 per)?

[nsacpi]

How much would the difference in salary affect return (bumgarner 12 per, wheeler 6 per)?

Of course that is something to be adjusted for. Given the season is now more than half-way done, the difference in salary the rest of the way in is less than 3M.

[msstate7]

I'm going to guess the rotation ends up as Soroka, DK, Folty, Gausman and Teheran with Fried making spot starts and BP appearances by August.

Assuming Greene is a roughly .280-.290 xwOBA guy if used properly, the only current BP arms as good or better are:

Ynoa (SSS)
Swarzak
Jackson
Dayton (SSS)
Webb
Touki
Newk
Minter (assuming he's fixed)
Fried (speculatively in the BP)

There's probably room for two .280 or better BP arms, and in the case of Smith it doesn't matter which hand he throws with...he's elite.

It's also a bit horse before the cart, but the Braves are set up really well to pair LHP/RHP against a team like the Dodgers who use platoons so aggressively. Newk opening for Gausman, Fried opening for Folty, Touki opening for DK...those are scenarios that could really mess up the Dodgers extreme platoon tactics.

It would most likely cause snit a stroke... the idea of using a guy for an inning or 2 then going to the normal starter. Nevertheless, the strategy is brilliant

[CyYoung31]

Didn't they change the rule already next year that a pitcher must face 3 batters barring injury?

Yes.

[sturg33]

Just the starting pitcher, correct?

Pretty sure it was all pitchers. Gonna hurt the loogy business

[msstate7]

With that new rule, can you change pitcher on 3rd guy with say a 1-0 or 0-1 count?

[drewdat]

Is there a limit on how often you can fake UCL tears in a season?