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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    But...the Braves didn’t suck last year and are very unlikely to suck this year.

    I think the root cause of your ranting is that you don’t quite understand what is reasonable to expect from a team with a middling payroll. Winning 85-90 wins long term is about the best that can be expecteded.
    Not true.

    Astros, Cardinals, Indians, Brewers are all on a "middling payroll" with the Cards being on the high side of that range. Building a team that wins in the 85-90 range on a consistent basis will rarely get you anywhere and is the path of the Pirates, Rays and A's...in other words small market clubs.

    There's a difference in not sucking and being legitimately good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Horsehide Harry View Post
    Not true.

    Astros, Cardinals, Indians, Brewers are all on a "middling payroll" with the Cards being on the high side of that range. Building a team that wins in the 85-90 range on a consistent basis will rarely get you anywhere and is the path of the Pirates, Rays and A's...in other words small market clubs.

    There's a difference in not sucking and being legitimately good.
    As I said, completely unreasonable expectations, proven by the above statement.

    I think you need to review how long those teams have been winning, and what their payroll is compared to the Braves. Then review what “long term” means.
    Last edited by Enscheff; 03-30-2019 at 12:13 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Horsehide Harry View Post
    Not true.

    Astros, Cardinals, Indians, Brewers are all on a "middling payroll" with the Cards being on the high side of that range. Building a team that wins in the 85-90 range on a consistent basis will rarely get you anywhere and is the path of the Pirates, Rays and A's...in other words small market clubs.

    There's a difference in not sucking and being legitimately good.
    Indians have only been good for 3 years, and won 100 games one year. The year before, they won 94 games. Last year they won 90 games in a garbage division, and are poised to be about the same or worse this year.

    Brewers have been good for one ****ing year.

    Cardinals haven’t made the playoffs in 4 years.

    Are you sure you have a point?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thewupk View Post
    7 pages of this because the Braves lost the 1st game?
    There are certainly some posts because of that. More it's a reaction to the problems with the opening day roster. It's complaining about the off-season ending with so many roster holes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CyYoung31 View Post
    Indians have only been good for 3 years, and won 100 games one year. The year before, they won 94 games. Last year they won 90 games in a garbage division, and are poised to be about the same or worse this year.

    Brewers have been good for one ****ing year.

    Cardinals haven’t made the playoffs in 4 years.

    Are you sure you have a point?
    And the Astros have an opening day payroll of abut $176M this year.

    Again, the basis of HHs ranting isn’t grounded in facts.

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    Not upgrading the pitching staff is really a problem

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    Quote Originally Posted by striker42 View Post
    Not upgrading the pitching staff is really a problem
    I’m not really worried about the rotation. But the bullpen...

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    He has put the Braves in a position to win "The Belt". A real feather in his cap. Braves one of 5 finalists.

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    Maybe AA is hoping for one more good draft pick. Genius
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    So when can we finally start to freak out without the AA ass kissers telling us its too early?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pacheaholic View Post
    So when can we finally start to freak out without the AA ass kissers telling us its too early?
    Try May.

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    I'm calling it, AA is not going to cut it as a GM. He needs to go. The inability to improve the pitching staff is inexcusable. He's overmatched.

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    Quote Originally Posted by striker42 View Post
    I'm calling it, AA is not going to cut it as a GM. He needs to go. The inability to improve the pitching staff is inexcusable. He's overmatched.
    It’s like you missed his time as GM of the
    Blue Jays.

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    Well....I certainly am not happy with AA's plan at the moment, but I'll give it til May. However fans can have the opinion that this is bull**** we're looking at. To see teams spend to address their shortcomings and the Braves "wait -and -see" strategy look questionable even in the offseason, is a downer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CyYoung31 View Post
    It’s like you missed his time as GM of the
    Blue Jays.
    You mean his time of Canadian futility?

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    Quote Originally Posted by striker42 View Post
    You mean his time of Canadian futility?
    What?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CyYoung31 View Post
    What?
    AA wasn't great in Toronto. Not sure if you were saying his time as the Jay's GM showed he was able to do the job or not. I look at his time there and am less than impressed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by striker42 View Post
    AA wasn't great in Toronto. Not sure if you were saying his time as the Jay's GM showed he was able to do the job or not. I look at his time there and am less than impressed.
    You're less than impressed that he was able to lead a franchise who hadn't reached the playoffs in 22 years to back to back playoff appearances? That he was able to wrestle the stranglehold of the division away from the Red Sox and Yankees with a middling payroll?

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    I had high hopes after 2018, but that's built on premise of teams taking advantage of their windows, not stagnating while everyone else gets better.

    We’re paying what? Two players? Freeman, Donaldson, Teheran somewhat. The rest are pretty much minimum guys. Go get somebody to help.

    It’s a shame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CyYoung31 View Post
    Try May.
    So when they're already 10+ games behind the Phillies.

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