signing any type of player to a team friendly deal is good business...it can come in many sizes and shapes...see Donaldson, McCann, Markakis and Acuna for recent examples of team friendly deals
#value
corollary: I'm not opposed to signing Kimbrel...or extending Swanson...depends on the details
Last edited by nsacpi; 04-08-2019 at 08:53 AM.
"I am a victim, I will tell you. I am a victim."
"I am your retribution."
True. Carried to its extreme chasing value can lead to absurd outcomes. But that's not what I'm talking about. In practice seeking value will lead to a variety of deals. See Donaldson, McCann, Markakis and Acuna for recent examples. They are not all 1-2 wins players on team friendly deals.
"I am a victim, I will tell you. I am a victim."
"I am your retribution."
I think what I am saying is we need to lock up both Ozzie and Dans ASAP. Monsters!!!
Coppy
After 1 season? I would think he'd be smart enough to realize that in this market, for a player like him, he's unlikely to ever get more 60-75 million guaranteed. If he finishes the year around 4fWAR, I'd extend him and buyout a year or 2 of FA. But probably not for over 60 million. Unless the market changes, I think the Jean Segura extension (5/70) is about the best he could hope for even if he reached FA.
Dansby will be arb1 next year. I think any extension starts there. I would say you could buy out his 3 arb years for 20-25 million. Then see about 2 team options or 1 more garauntee year with 1 team option. Probably around 15 per. Basically 5 year deal for 50/60 million if option(s) are picked up
Coppy
"I am a victim, I will tell you. I am a victim."
"I am your retribution."
It’s a fair question. With any World Series run, there’s a bit of small sample randomness, which is one of the things that make it so unlikely in this day and age. That transpiring 3 consecutive times, as well as being good enough for it to happen, is impressive from an odds perspective. But, being the best team in your division (as well as the best team in your league most years) over a decade-and-a-half stretch is also, obviously, extremely impressive. I don’t think it’s a simple answer, and is very subjective.
If his agent approached us tomorrow I would offer something like a 3/20 deal with two option years at 12 million a piece with a 3 million dollar buyout. That may be a tad light, but that is what I would offer at this point. It probably makes more sense to wait until the end of the year to do something though.
jpx7 (04-08-2019)
That is 5/~45 which is close to my 5/50. I think that is more likely what it would take. Dansby can afford to bet on himself that he will hit 3 wins this year. That will net him ~5 mil in arb 1. Then if he continues that production he will be getting close to 25 mill for all 3 arb years combined . I don’t see him buying that potential out plus 2 prime years without more garaunteed/bigger options.
Coppy