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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaw View Post
    This bullpen reminds me a bit of one Bobby Cox had where, for a while, Ken Ray was the only reliably solid reliever. Then Cox brought Ray into the game in a closer spot (I think in the 8th?) and Ray got shelled.

    It's silly to feel this way, but Jackson and Winkler are the only two I don't feel pessimistic about at this point. Edit- and nsacpi reminds me of Parsons. He's done well.
    Has Enscheff done one of his evaluations of Parsons? I'd like to see that. His sinker/slider combo looks pretty good. Has gotten lots of ground balls throughout his career. And he throws strikes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skeeter31 View Post
    Too bad we let Sam Freeman walk. Could probably use him now.
    The Freeman and Winkler moves were truly puzzling. Both perfectly adequate BP arms who were left off the MLB roster in favor of lesser options.
    I think he (Teheran) finishes with a FIP ~3.3. -CrazyTrain 3/25/2019

    Gausman had a bad walk ratio for us -CrazyTrain 11/20/2018
    BB/9 with Braves: 2.72

    Fried, Newk and a couple other guys for Bumgarner and give him a pay day for 6ish years -CrazyTrain 10/15/18

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    Sam would fit right in with our current BP. 5 walks in 7 innings with a 1.7 whip inAAA
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    Sam Freeman being here or not isn't the problem. The problem is that we don't have any better option. The neglect of the pen has been baffling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by striker42 View Post
    Sam Freeman being here or not isn't the problem. The problem is that we don't have any better option. The neglect of the pen has been baffling.
    Yeah. But some of the guys I wanted are ****ting the bed too. I liked Kelvin at his price. I would have liked romo too if we scored a bigger name first. JJ might add some stabilization if we could get him cheaply.
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    For those of you pining for Sam Freeman, here's why he was released per DOB:

    VizcaŪno’s injury was just the latest wrench thrown into the works of a Braves bullpen that started to take on water during spring training when O’Day got injured again (forearm strain; he’s still not throwing and isn’t expected back before at least June) and left-hander Sam Freeman was released after changing his throwing motion in the offseason and seeing a decline in his velocity and effectiveness.
    https://theathletic.com/931536/2019/...dle-gets-wild/

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    With the pen in complete shambles, am I really the only person that can't fathom why on earth Vizcaino hasn't been transferred to the 60-Day IL to create a roster spot yet?

    If O'Day really isn't expected back before then, wouldn't it make sense to move him there as well?
    Last edited by clvclv; 04-21-2019 at 10:14 AM.
    The FO that needlessly promoted him early knew what they were doing and are paid to do this. We aren't, so we can't know more than them. Correction....they used to be paid to do this..

    I also don't see the reasoning behind signing DK over CK, and I'm going to assume the Braves can only afford one of them. Like Bumgarner, DK would be an improvement in the rotation, but it seems like CK would be a bigger improvement in the BP.

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    I think its just procedural. Whenever they find someone to take the spot they'll move him.

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    May have been discussed elsewhere but I saw on twitter that the Giants were willing to move some relievers. Do they have anyone who would be an upgrade?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Onlyonegoal View Post
    May have been discussed elsewhere but I saw on twitter that the Giants were willing to move some relievers. Do they have anyone who would be an upgrade?
    Almost everyone in their bullpen.

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    There is some type of roster move, I canít temeber which, that canít be done unless the 40 man is full. Thatís the reason teams keep it full until a spot needs to be opened.

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    I would give Clouse and Burrows a shot

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    OK, fess up, which one of you was this?

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    8:12 Mark Melancon and Cash for Cristian Pache? Who say No?
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    8:12 The Braves. If they're willing to move Pache for a reliever, they can do better than a question mark like Melancon
    (I didn't mean to make a question mark/Mark pun there, I swear)
    I think he (Teheran) finishes with a FIP ~3.3. -CrazyTrain 3/25/2019

    Gausman had a bad walk ratio for us -CrazyTrain 11/20/2018
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    Fried, Newk and a couple other guys for Bumgarner and give him a pay day for 6ish years -CrazyTrain 10/15/18

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    There were a bunch of 2nd tier relievers moved last year for relative pennies. I remember being really bummed when we didn't pull the trigger on a Keone Kela trade. I'd like to see us start making some moves like that. Trade some organizational depth for guys who have the ability to provide top shelf middle relief or adequate 7th/8th/9th inning work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    OK, fess up, which one of you was this?

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    8:12 Mark Melancon and Cash for Cristian Pache? Who say No?
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    8:12 The Braves. If they're willing to move Pache for a reliever, they can do better than a question mark like Melancon
    (I didn't mean to make a question mark/Mark pun there, I swear)
    WTF????????

    Who said that should be banned for a week. That is like totally stupid.

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    Ew

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    Quote Originally Posted by AerchAngel View Post
    WTF????????

    Who said that should be banned for a week. That is like totally stupid.
    This is literally the dumbest thing I have read on the internet... at least since someone around here predicted us to win 82 games last season anyway

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    Last year it was Chuckie who took the blame for poor walk rates, now Kranitz/Reed are under the gun. AA should be in front of a canon but...

    The BP needs some BIG adjustments. The Braves throwers have walked a total of 108 hitters with the BP having 56 of those. Who the hell is teaching these kids in the minors??

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    He was DFA'd by the Angels

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