Bullpen options

[bravesfanforlife88]

It’s no secret our bull pen sucks and is in desperate need of a fix. That has already been discussed at length in numerous threads. I thought it’d be nice to have a central thread with bullpen options people think might help.

I’d like us to sign Craig Kimbrel and just get it over with. Then let him take as mush time as needed to get back to playing shape.

I’d like to see Wright/Touki/Wilson/Freid/Soroka all up on the big league roster. From there you decide who starts and who relieves. It has been mentioned about the tandem starts and I think this could be a newer version of the “opener”

Folty
Freid/Touki
Gausman
Soroka/ Wilson
Teheran/Wright

The starter in this case goes around the line up two times unless he is dealing. The reliever, Touki/Wilson/Wright, comes in to get the game to the 7th/8th/ or shut it down in some cases.

The pen would look like

Kimbrel - closer
Minter - set up
Biddle
Parsons
Tomlin- mop up duty
Touki
Wilson
Wright

Inciarte
Donaldson
Freeman
Acuña
Neck
Swanson
Albies
Bmac/ Flowers


Bmac/Flowers
Culberson
Camargo
Joyce

[Enscheff]

As good a place as any to put this:

2:33
Not the mama: Jeff Fletcher of the OCR recently stated that teams signing players with QO attached would have to surrender 2020 pick if the player signed after 2019 draft, is that correct? The narrative has been that teams are waiting until after the draft to not lose any pick, but that doesn’t seem to make sense if Fletcher is correct

2:33
Craig Edwards: Looking this up. Give me a second.

2:37
Craig Edwards: quick reading of the CBA, and could be wrong, does seem to provide that provision, though a closer reading is probably necessary. IN any event, a draft pick next year is worth a lot less than one now. I’m not entirely sure the draft pick is what has prevented Kimbrel and Keuchel from signing, though for teams right now, delaying a penalty by a year and not signing a player until you know you are in contention does have its benefits. Probably not enough to where you wouldn’t sign that player today if you wanted or needed him, but there are some small benefits.


If true, it makes waiting until after the draft not nearly as big a deal.

[bravesfanforlife88]

As good a place as any to put this:

2:33
Not the mama: Jeff Fletcher of the OCR recently stated that teams signing players with QO attached would have to surrender 2020 pick if the player signed after 2019 draft, is that correct? The narrative has been that teams are waiting until after the draft to not lose any pick, but that doesn’t seem to make sense if Fletcher is correct

2:33
Craig Edwards: Looking this up. Give me a second.

2:37
Craig Edwards: quick reading of the CBA, and could be wrong, does seem to provide that provision, though a closer reading is probably necessary. IN any event, a draft pick next year is worth a lot less than one now. I’m not entirely sure the draft pick is what has prevented Kimbrel and Keuchel from signing, though for teams right now, delaying a penalty by a year and not signing a player until you know you are in contention does have its benefits. Probably not enough to where you wouldn’t sign that player today if you wanted or needed him, but there are some small benefits.


If true, it makes waiting until after the draft not nearly as big a deal.

Agreed.Plus the set up listed above would get all of the guys valuable major league innings to have a better idea who will swim and who will wash out

[CyYoung31]

I hear a former closer is looking fo work.

[BeanieAntics]

I would be perusing the market looking for buy low options who could provide solid middle relief and look for our high leverage guys internally. There are a boat load of those guys available

If we can get Kimbrel on a 2-3 year deal, though, it should be done. I still think he's just asking too much. Even if we get him, though, we're gonna need 1 or 2 buy low MRP options.

[CJ9]

As good a place as any to put this:

2:33
Not the mama: Jeff Fletcher of the OCR recently stated that teams signing players with QO attached would have to surrender 2020 pick if the player signed after 2019 draft, is that correct? The narrative has been that teams are waiting until after the draft to not lose any pick, but that doesn’t seem to make sense if Fletcher is correct

2:33
Craig Edwards: Looking this up. Give me a second.

2:37
Craig Edwards: quick reading of the CBA, and could be wrong, does seem to provide that provision, though a closer reading is probably necessary. IN any event, a draft pick next year is worth a lot less than one now. I’m not entirely sure the draft pick is what has prevented Kimbrel and Keuchel from signing, though for teams right now, delaying a penalty by a year and not signing a player until you know you are in contention does have its benefits. Probably not enough to where you wouldn’t sign that player today if you wanted or needed him, but there are some small benefits.


If true, it makes waiting until after the draft not nearly as big a deal.

I don’t think I agree about it not being as big of a deal. This draft is a huge one for us with the two first rounders. Having that $1.2 million slotted to our current second round pick is really important to being able to use that towards pick 9 and 21.

Plus since we’d lose our third highest pick for signing Kimbrel, that’s a second rounder in 2019 and a third rounder in 2020. I think that’s a pretty significant deal.

[striker42]

I hear a former closer is looking fo work.

Ban worthy offense?

[50PoundHead]

I know Mychal Givens would have cost more than Brach and O'Day, but I wish they could have found a way to acquire him last year.

[nsacpi]

we will need some reinforcements but until the cavalry arrives I think Snit needs to lean more on Parsons...he looks really good to me

and the team should consider bringing up Clouse

[Skeeter31]

Too bad we let Sam Freeman walk. Could probably use him now.

[striker42]

Too bad we let Sam Freeman walk. Could probably use him now.

This is the saddest sentence ever written in English. Our pen is so bad we long for the days of Sam Freeman.

[nsacpi]

Too bad we let Sam Freeman walk. Could probably use him now.

A decision that puzzled me. We have been carrying Tomlin, who has done ok. But I'd rather we have kept Freeman.

[Enscheff]

Too bad we let Sam Freeman walk. Could probably use him now.

The Freeman and Winkler moves were truly puzzling. Both perfectly adequate BP arms who were left off the MLB roster in favor of lesser options.

[Onlyonegoal]

May have been discussed elsewhere but I saw on twitter that the Giants were willing to move some relievers. Do they have anyone who would be an upgrade?

[Dalyn]

May have been discussed elsewhere but I saw on twitter that the Giants were willing to move some relievers. Do they have anyone who would be an upgrade?

Almost everyone in their bullpen.

[Enscheff]

There is some type of roster move, I can’t temeber which, that can’t be done unless the 40 man is full. That’s the reason teams keep it full until a spot needs to be opened.

[zbhargrove]

I would give Clouse and Burrows a shot

[Enscheff]

OK, fess up, which one of you was this?

BravesFan92
8:12 Mark Melancon and Cash for Cristian Pache? Who say No?
Mark P
8:12 The Braves. If they're willing to move Pache for a reliever, they can do better than a question mark like Melancon
(I didn't mean to make a question mark/Mark pun there, I swear)

[BeanieAntics]

There were a bunch of 2nd tier relievers moved last year for relative pennies. I remember being really bummed when we didn't pull the trigger on a Keone Kela trade. I'd like to see us start making some moves like that. Trade some organizational depth for guys who have the ability to provide top shelf middle relief or adequate 7th/8th/9th inning work.

[AerchAngel]

OK, fess up, which one of you was this?

BravesFan92
8:12 Mark Melancon and Cash for Cristian Pache? Who say No?
Mark P
8:12 The Braves. If they're willing to move Pache for a reliever, they can do better than a question mark like Melancon
(I didn't mean to make a question mark/Mark pun there, I swear)

WTF????????

Who said that should be banned for a week. That is like totally stupid.