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    Quote Originally Posted by 57Brave View Post
    Christopher J. Hale
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    The most stunning statistic of the night is John Bel Edwards winning

    nearly 91% of New Orleans. Democrats don’t get that high of numbers in Los Angeles or New York City.


    #LAGOV
    Edwards won 87% of Orleans Parrish in 2015 and 90% this year according to the LA SOS. The difference is either not statistically significant or else the result of the difference in president (sitting presidents virtually always spur greater turnout among the opposing party in non presidential election years).

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    He won by more last time.
    "Donald Trump will serve a second term as president of the United States.

    It’s over."


    Little Thethe Nov 19, 2020.

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    and since 2015


    " Rispone, the 70-year-old owner of a Baton Rouge industrial contracting company, hitched his entire candidacy to Trump, introducing himself to voters in ads that focused on support for the president in a state Trump won by 20 percentage points."

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/elect...ump/ar-BBWQit3
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    Quote Originally Posted by 57Brave View Post
    and since 2015


    " Rispone, the 70-year-old owner of a Baton Rouge industrial contracting company, hitched his entire candidacy to Trump, introducing himself to voters in ads that focused on support for the president in a state Trump won by 20 percentage points."

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/elect...ump/ar-BBWQit3
    Edwards won a year before Trump won LA by 20 points. Did something change in that year? No. Presidential elections and off year elections are different animals.

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    This (D) victory is about Trump and Trumps influence vis a vis impeachment and subsequent trial.
    And how it will effect incumbents
    In this case one La. Sen. is up for re-election in 2021. How he votes and conducts himself during impeachment trial will be judged accordingly

    In 3 years Trumps standing is - 23 in a red state.
    Recall, this conversation began at my surprise at a 16 point spread where you questioned the methodology and participants

    In the next few days expect to see the term referendum in reference to La.'s opinion of DJT's endorsements.
    .................................................. ...

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    the difference is trump wont respond well to being told to not come campaign for them.
    "Donald Trump will serve a second term as president of the United States.

    It’s over."


    Little Thethe Nov 19, 2020.

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    Is that the box Pelosi has him in ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 57Brave View Post
    Is that the box Pelosi has him in ?
    It's called The Gimp Box.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 57Brave View Post
    This (D) victory is about Trump and Trumps influence vis a vis impeachment and subsequent trial.
    And how it will effect incumbents
    In this case one La. Sen. is up for re-election in 2021. How he votes and conducts himself during impeachment trial will be judged accordingly

    In 3 years Trumps standing is - 23 in a red state.
    Recall, this conversation began at my surprise at a 16 point spread where you questioned the methodology and participants

    In the next few days expect to see the term referendum in reference to La.'s opinion of DJT's endorsements.
    .................................................. ...

    Remember 2006 mid terms ? As the Iraq War wore on and it's rationale was falling apart --- Bush43 was advised to stay in hiding
    The effect of a Trump endorsement in a general election has always been overstated. Edwards won 4 years ago without a Trump effect by a similar amount.

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    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...rce=reddit.com



    Trump "strongly" considering testifying. So I take that as a no, he wont be testifying.
    "Donald Trump will serve a second term as president of the United States.

    It’s over."


    Little Thethe Nov 19, 2020.

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    From the WSJ story:

    Some witnesses in the House impeachment inquiry cited orders from former national-security adviser John Bolton to report to Mr. Eisenberg the “drug deal,” as Mr. Bolton allegedly called it, that Messrs. Sondland and Giuliani were involved in. Mr. Bolton didn’t personally raise his concerns over Mr. Sondland’s activities with Mr. Eisenberg, a person familiar with the NSC general counsel’s thinking said.

    It isn’t known publicly what, if anything, Mr. Eisenberg did with those reported complaints, and his handling of them is now a subject of debate.

    “I do think someone is trying to make him the fall guy,” one current administration official said of accusations that the NSC general counsel should have done more to address the complaints. “Some people have told him he should go out and set the record straight, but he won’t do it.”

    Mr. Eisenberg then, according to the person familiar with his thinking, shared the complaints with Mr. Cipollone.

    “Pat told John to raise it with the president, but he did not,” according to this person. “He didn’t think [the July 10 meeting] was important enough given other things that were going on…No one understood why [Mr. Sondland] was involved in Ukraine. Maybe he was blowing smoke and pretending to be more important than he is.”
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    Hmmm...the old the drug deal was so crazy it couldn't really be a drug deal defense
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    His relationship with Mr. Bolton, who didn’t respond to a request for comment, was strained in the last six months of Mr. Bolton’s tenure, according to one current and one former administration official, as well as the person familiar with Mr. Eisenberg’s thinking. The two men “hardly ever spoke toward the end,” one current official said, adding that the reason isn’t known.

    Above is the last paragraph of the article. Talk about burying the lede.

    Would be nice if Eisenberg and Bolton came forward and testified.
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    Devin Nunes will not be on Vindman's Christmas card list. Paraphrased from memory, this exchange came soon after Nunes tried to imply Vindman had leaked things to the press and right in the middle of him trying to trick Vindman into outing the whistleblower publicly:

    Nunes: Mr. Vindman...

    Vindman: Ranking member, it's Lt. Colonel Vindman.

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    Shameful how Pence and Trump have brushed aside Jennifer Williams.

    I am here to counsel or console her if needed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Chosen One View Post
    Shameful how Pence and Trump have brushed aside Jennifer Williams.

    I am here to counsel or console her if needed.
    I know you would do your patriotic duty.
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    You guys got any better witnesses?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    You guys got any better witnesses?
    Probably not any that are allowed to testify.

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