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    The march to 250 continues. He will get there. Still going to slug 500 plus

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    Riley's regressed but he's still been a major addition to the lineup. Wouldnt have the record we do if not for him, saved the Braves ass in alot of games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    May vs June numbers:

    BABIP: .452 vs .200
    ISO: .390 vs .167
    K Rate: 33.3 vs 34.1
    BB Rate: 4.8 vs 2.3
    Update on June numbers: BABIP .275, ISO .250, K Rate 31.1, BB Rate: 4.4, OPS .762

    Those June numbers are in line with what I would expect from him going forward during the rest of 2019. Useful player right now. And given his age has a good chance to be an above average major league regular down the line.

    As a comp here are Camargo's career major league numbers: BABIP .326, ISO .171, BB Rate: 7.7, K Rate: 20.0, OPS .784.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    Update on June numbers: BABIP .275, ISO .250, K Rate 31.1, BB Rate: 4.4, OPS .762

    Those June numbers are in line with what I would expect from him going forward during the rest of 2019. Useful player right now. And given his age has a good chance to be an above average major league regular down the line.

    As a comp here are Camargo's career major league numbers: BABIP .326, ISO .171, BB Rate: 7.7, K Rate: 20.0, OPS .784.
    You think he will regularly BABIP below .300?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tapate50 View Post
    You think he will regularly BABIP below .300?
    No. That will move up. But I don't think he will maintain an ISO of .250. Fewer than 15 major league hitters sustained an ISO over .250 for a full season last year. My point is that his overall June performance is pretty close to what I would expect from him in the second half of 2019, with BABIP moving up some and ISO moving down.
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    Keeping tabs on his worrying plate discipline numbers:

    https://www.fangraphs.com/graphs.asp...15&dStatArray=

    An optimistic fan will see that as his Z-Contact% creeping up to 80%, which is a good sign.

    Any fan will also see his O-Swing% isn't getting any better as time wears on. He may be able to make it work, but folks need to understand what kind of hitter Riley is, and not be irrationally frustrated with his overall K/BB rates and limited upside.

    Good news is that I imagine not swinging at bad pitches is easier to learn than being able to make contact, so Riley is already improving a bit in the hardest area to improve.

    (That last sentence was pure Braves homerism and not based on any actual data)

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    350 OBP in the minors. I don't expect him to do better than that in the majors as a 22 yo rookie.

    I think youth and a history of making adjustment and improvements makes me optimistic. Scouting reports that he can play 3B well gives me hope too. I just see an 800-850 OPS type and not a star. A really good player though.

    Everyone on the Braves is not going to be Acuna or FF.

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    Strikeouts be damned, Braves’ rookie slugger Austin Riley continues to impress By David O'Brien.



    “He’s just really impressed me so much,” Seitzer said. “Matter of fact, I told him (Sunday), ‘You’ve done two things that have really impressed me a lot since you’ve been here.’ I said, ‘Number one, your ability to hit anything — hard, soft — you see off-speed, you’ve got that pause where you let it come and you stay on it really good a majority of the time.’ And I said, ‘Second thing, a guy with power has a tendency to try and do too much, and you don’t.’

    “I said, ‘There’s been just a couple of times where I thought you got big’ (with his swing), but the vast majority of the time he’s just staying within himself and staying in the middle of the field. And I said, ‘The more you see this pitching, the more you get at-bats off of these guys and you see what their secondary stuff looks like — you’ve got the ability to hit mistakes no matter what the pitch is.’ I go, ‘That’s huge. And it doesn’t matter — it’s like Freddie (Freeman) — if it’s 0-0, 1-0, it doesn’t matter; if he gets something hanging he’s got a chance to hit it in the seats.’
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    Strike outs be damned. Lol. Anyone else feel once Riley gets two strikes he is pretty much done. State. Go pull his line with two strikes. Not just 0-2 but everything with 2 strikes. He has to be really bad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bravesfanMatt View Post
    Strike outs be damned. Lol. Anyone else feel once Riley gets two strikes he is pretty much done. State. Go pull his line with two strikes. Not just 0-2 but everything with 2 strikes. He has to be really bad.
    He's hit a few clutch homers and stuff with 2 strikes. But yes it seems like he strikes out nearly every time with 2 strikes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bravesfanMatt View Post
    Strike outs be damned. Lol. Anyone else feel once Riley gets two strikes he is pretty much done. State. Go pull his line with two strikes. Not just 0-2 but everything with 2 strikes. He has to be really bad.
    He has a 395 OPS with 2 strikes

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    Riley pretty much relies on pitchers making a mistake and/or he guesses right to do damage...at least right now.

    Hopefully he continues to make adjustments to counter pitchers coming at him with more of a game plan.

    He may just be an infuriating .750-.800 OPS hitter that looks really bad between his HRs.

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    He is either a really good mistake hitter or has been benefiting from pitchers making a disproportionate number of bad pitches to him...maybe a bit of both
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    I like having Riley in the lineup but I’d explore a reunion with JD at 3b if he ends the season healthy. Let Riley play LF next year and see how Pache and Waters do in AAA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hudson2 View Post
    I like having Riley in the lineup but I’d explore a reunion with JD at 3b if he ends the season healthy. Let Riley play LF next year and see how Pache and Waters do in AAA.
    I think if JD finishes the season successfully, you at least tender the QO.

    If he turns it down, then kick the tires on Ozuna and Grandal.

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    I’m a little disappointed it doesn’t look like he will get to that 80 hr plateau
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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    He is either a really good mistake hitter or has been benefiting from pitchers making a disproportionate number of bad pitches to him...maybe a bit of both
    I think early teams had the “slow bat speed” scouting report and challenged him with fastballs.

    He showed pretty quickly that was a horrible idea.

    Now they are taking advantage of his poor plate discipline, and it’s ip to Riley to make an adjustment to make enough contact that his power plays.

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