Don't see what the big deal is with this Pope when the most contraversial thing he's said so far was "God accepts and loves his *** children too" or something to that extent.Originally Posted by weso1
He's still pro-life which is supposed to be the biggest factor.
Forever Fredi
Rep. Trey Radel, (R) Florida who voted to drug test food stamp recipients has been busted-booked and tatooed for Cocaine possession. Not only did he favor testing food stamp people but he used his heartfelt public service to gut the food stamp program. Y'all should know who your friends are. "don't follow leaders and watch ya parkin meters"
Wonder what Anthony Weiner is doing today? and why no one has invoked his name yet today??
People on welfare and food stamps should for SURE be drug tested. I have zero issue with implementing that.
Ivermectin Man
FreemanFan (11-29-2013)
I have an issue with it. Because it wastes tax payer money. Same thing with voter ID laws, it's a non-solution to a non-problem.
Stockholm, more densely populated than NYC - sturg
Since there shouldn't be drug laws in the first place, I don't want anyone drug tested.
But also don't want anyone on food stamps either
Meh, depends on if you think someone should get Government benefits while taking\using an illegal substance likely contributing to their situation.
Ivermectin Man
God I hate to infuse non sense like verifiable data into a conversation.
Even more - I hate to add context to that data - but I'll hold my nose and --- here goes.
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"Utah has spent more than $30,000 to drug test welfare applicants after it passed a new law last year. But in that time, just 12 people have tested positive for drug use, according to state figures."
http://thinkprogress.org/economy/201...users-welfare/
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aren't these all states that refused Medicaid expansion to implement ACA?
Pattern here or what
Would someone like to discuss how shirts or jerseys or our team vs your team ....
That is all if you are using this a fiscal matter... I don't. I believe it is a issue of IF you should get benefits if you are a drug user. There are no jerseys involved.
Ivermectin Man
Drug test politicians too, then. Why should they get to rake in all this taxpayer money without being subjected to the same rules?
Me thinks many a politician would not be ok with this.
Hey, alcohol leaves the system quick. So if they smoke a little weed, it's a problem. If they get drunk every night, no big deal, carry on.
How long do rx pills stay in the system?
$30,000 to catch 12 people seems like a huge waste of resources.
Both are illegal. Drinking at night mostly won't affect me being employed the next day.
Have an accident on the job? Under the influence? See ya. Your gov't sponsored health plan will be picking up the tab, not the employer. You will also be subject to unemployment drug tests and won't get benefits if you test positive. What is wrong with that?
Under the current situation, your examples are apples and oranges.
Ivermectin Man
Besides the fact it is a huge waste of money and nothing more than RW grandstanding ===
There is the issue of unreasonable search and seizure. ((Which amendment 5th I think) -- is the fact you are seeking welfare enough evidence to suspect one is using drugs then to search your person ? If you are against NSA surveillance how could one possibly favor the unreasonable assumption one is a drug user -- simply because they've fallen on hard times and seek relief??
Relief?
We can stop right there. This isn't going anywhere with that frame of mind. This is pointless. We get it. You believe everyone should get everything for free, and without consequence.
Ivermectin Man
Relief is a New Deal term used as an synonym for "welfare" and probably the more accurate word
Last edited by 57Brave; 11-20-2013 at 01:48 PM.
Then sober up. Easy as that.
Ivermectin Man
This is our own fault. Anyone who listens to Sarah Palin or Al Sharpton gets what they deserve.
Sarah Palin must have a nationally syndicated TV show that airs all day every day that people watch. She is mentioned here more than baseball.
Ivermectin Man
I can honestly say I haven't heard Sarah Palin speak in at least a year... Is she still relevant somewhere? What am I missing?
CK86 (11-20-2013)
Agreed. I could go without her mention (or Sharpton's). And even though I'm left-of-center, I am tired of Rachel Maddow too.
That's actually, like, not at all easy for people with genetically- and/or environmentally-conditioned predispositions towards addiction. Methinks you don't know **** about chemical dependency if your response is: "Easy as that."
"For all his tattooings he was on the whole a clean, comely looking cannibal."
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