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    Quote Originally Posted by Carp View Post
    The Braves need a closer. Playoff teams either have a reliable closer or will be trying to trade for one. I'd rather spend money and have one of the best. And I'd rather not pay the prospect cost of acquiring other top end relievers. 2.5 years is not a substantial risk.
    they need good RPs. like i said, i get that you still believe closers are different. but in factual terms they aren't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thewupk View Post
    Craig isnt one of the best anymore.
    We'll just have to disagree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Super View Post
    they need good RPs. like i said, i get that you still believe closers are different. but in factual terms they aren't.
    Regardless if you think just anybody can close (which we see time and time again isn't true), high end relievers still cost quite a bit either financially or in terms of prospects.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carp View Post
    We'll just have to disagree.
    One thing is for sure. His BB rate the past 2 out of 3 years would fit right in with this team.

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    I loved the move of putting Touki and Newk in the bullpen. We should be doing THIS more and getting use out of these live arms. Wilson, Weigel, heck even Muller. If we aren't going to pay for relievers in $ or prospects, then this is what we have to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nerfherders View Post
    I loved the move of putting Touki and Newk in the bullpen. We should be doing THIS more and getting use out of these live arms. Wilson, Weigel, heck even Muller. If we aren't going to pay for relievers in $ or prospects, then this is what we have to do.
    I think perhaps the front office may be on the same page here. It’s the best explanation why relievers were not priorities.

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    According to a source, the Braves have emerged as frontrunners to sign Dallas Keuchel. Yankees remain in the mix, but Atlanta appears to be making a push.

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    We’re shopping down the aisle. Let’s see if we make a purchase

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    I held my anger in check until Kimbrel did or didn't sign. But hearing what the Cubs gave him, he came way down from his off-season demands and this would have done nothing to cramp the Braves' budget or plans. They just flat-out didn't think he was worth the money and obviously has a deaf ear to the fans.
    While there have been plenty of butt-smooching reactions that JUST LOVE this draft, the fact that a rookie scouting director was at the helm at the behest of AA makes me wonder how many of these projectable picks even sign.
    Put me in the camp that AA is not good for the Braves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carp View Post
    Regardless if you think just anybody can close (which we see time and time again isn't true), high end relievers still cost quite a bit either financially or in terms of prospects.
    Do we see that time and time again? Have you looked at the saves numbers for “closers” vs everyone else? Or are you just allowing confirmation bias inform your decision every time you see a “non closer” blow a save?

    High leverage BP arms have historically been “closers” because dinosaurs didn’t understand the concept of leverage, and using them in the 9th was the easiest proxy for leverage they had at the time.
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    I am so furious I haven’t responded (not that anyone gives a flip about my opinion) / but Chef and Rico are dead on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PurpleBrave View Post
    We’re shopping down the aisle. Let’s see if we make a purchase
    You got some money to lend them?
    The FO that needlessly promoted him early knew what they were doing and are paid to do this. We aren't, so we can't know more than them. Correction....they used to be paid to do this..

    I also don't see the reasoning behind signing DK over CK, and I'm going to assume the Braves can only afford one of them. Like Bumgarner, DK would be an improvement in the rotation, but it seems like CK would be a bigger improvement in the BP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hulavol View Post
    I am so furious I haven’t responded (not that anyone gives a flip about my opinion) / but Chef and Rico are dead on.
    17 per for Kimbrel is a bad use of resources for the Braves

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    Quote Originally Posted by Onlyonegoal View Post
    According to a source, the Braves have emerged as frontrunners to sign Dallas Keuchel. Yankees remain in the mix, but Atlanta appears to be making a push.
    Do it, Braves. Add DK and an arm or two via trade at the deadline and I'm happy.

    Keuchel, Folty, Soroka, Fried, Teheran. :)
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    Even DOB seems to be back peddling a bit on his claim that the Braves are interested but it's mainly minimal.

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    Rather sign DK over CK.

    Starting rotation right now is a mess.

    - Gausman is awful right now.
    - Dont trust Teheran to keep this up.
    - Fried been getting rocked lately.
    - Soroka will need his innings monitored.
    - Folty's been up and down.

    Depending what the price, i think at most it would be a 3 year deal, maybe 1-2 years. But the rotation needs something right now. Not sure they sign him still, but he'd be a much needed addition.

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    Bowman just retweeted the report. It’s real, people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CyYoung31 View Post
    Bowman just retweeted the report. It’s real, people.
    Oh, wow. You're right - he wouldn't retweet without accuracy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CyYoung31 View Post
    Bowman just retweeted the report. It’s real, people.
    Bowman has given you reason to believe eh?
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    I would be shocked if it's anything more than a 4 month deal, possibly with an option for 2020...but probably just $10M+ for the rest of 2019.
    I think he (Teheran) finishes with a FIP ~3.3. -CrazyTrain 3/25/2019

    Gausman had a bad walk ratio for us -CrazyTrain 11/20/2018
    BB/9 with Braves: 2.72

    Fried, Newk and a couple other guys for Bumgarner and give him a pay day for 6ish years -CrazyTrain 10/15/18

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