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    Quote Originally Posted by CJ9 View Post
    Heyman says Langeliers signed for $4 million. Slot was $4.95, so there’s a big chunk of savings.
    There’s the reasoning behind the picks that the negative nancies couldn’t wait to find out
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tapate50 View Post
    There’s the reasoning behind the picks that the negative nancies couldn’t wait to find out
    Every time I question and bitch about something AA has done he walks up to me and kicks me in the nuts and tells me to shut up. This draft might turn out to be killer based on potential. Maybe I need to really ramp up my JD whine.
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    I have some misgivings about the day 1 picks, but maybe they were key to setting up the rest of the draft.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tapate50 View Post
    There’s the reasoning behind the picks that the negative nancies couldn’t wait to find out
    Undersloting is a valid strategy, just not one I'd do with a top 10 pick. With a top 10 I'm shooting for a superstar. But at least it isn't nonsense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by striker42 View Post
    Undersloting is a valid strategy, just not one I'd do with a top 10 pick. With a top 10 I'm shooting for a superstar. But at least it isn't nonsense.
    Typically agree. But I don’t think there was one this draft.
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    Quote Originally Posted by striker42 View Post
    Undersloting is a valid strategy, just not one I'd do with a top 10 pick. With a top 10 I'm shooting for a superstar. But at least it isn't nonsense.
    I'm 100% fine with an underslot strategy, even with a top pick. I'm not okay with an underslot strategy if you're not planning on going overslot with your 2nd and 3rd pick for studs who happen to fall. That is where you can get a lot of value. I hate an underslot strategy where you (ostensibly) go underslot with your first 3 picks and then try to get value in rounds 3-10 and/or 11-40. It seems like no matter what type of player profile you pick in those rounds, its largely a crapshoot whether you go overslot or not.

    And I'm saying this as someone who really likes a lot of the picks we made in those rounds. I think its possible we got some good ones. But I also have to recognize that there are reasons why these guys weren't all that hyped and it seems silly to go underslot in order to get those guys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeanieAntics View Post
    I'm 100% fine with an underslot strategy, even with a top pick. I'm not okay with an underslot strategy if you're not planning on going overslot with your 2nd and 3rd pick for studs who happen to fall. That is where you can get a lot of value. I hate an underslot strategy where you (ostensibly) go underslot with your first 3 picks and then try to get value in rounds 3-10 and/or 11-40. It seems like no matter what type of player profile you pick in those rounds, its largely a crapshoot whether you go overslot or not.

    And I'm saying this as someone who really likes a lot of the picks we made in those rounds. I think its possible we got some good ones. But I also have to recognize that there are reasons why these guys weren't all that hyped and it seems silly to go underslot in order to get those guys.
    The only reason that justifies us not going overslot on 2 and 3 is not having any international signings this year. Being able to go wide on overslot players later in the draft to compensate makes some sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by striker42 View Post
    The only reason that justifies us not going overslot on 2 and 3 is not having any international signings this year. Being able to go wide on overslot players later in the draft to compensate makes some sense.
    Given the fact our activity in the international market is limited, it's certainly warranted to take some developmental guys after Round 10. Even if a lot of these guys may be raw, they'll get plenty of time and opportunity to develop.

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    I like the strategy pursued...but I think we could have pursued it even while going after the highest upside guy available with the two first round picks
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    Quote Originally Posted by BeanieAntics View Post
    I'm 100% fine with an underslot strategy, even with a top pick. I'm not okay with an underslot strategy if you're not planning on going overslot with your 2nd and 3rd pick for studs who happen to fall. That is where you can get a lot of value. I hate an underslot strategy where you (ostensibly) go underslot with your first 3 picks and then try to get value in rounds 3-10 and/or 11-40. It seems like no matter what type of player profile you pick in those rounds, its largely a crapshoot whether you go overslot or not.

    And I'm saying this as someone who really likes a lot of the picks we made in those rounds. I think its possible we got some good ones. But I also have to recognize that there are reasons why these guys weren't all that hyped and it seems silly to go underslot in order to get those guys.
    I think that’s probably right. The kind of upside play you can make in rounds 11+ are much bigger long shots than you get in the earlier rounds and I’m not sure any number of them actually being signed really makes up for missing on early picks.

    That said, maybe they won’t miss on their early picks. Langeliers wasn’t exciting but I have no problem with the pick. honestly his upside is probably higher than he’s been given credit for.

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    Signings always require context. Cost. Risk. Opportunity.

    A lot of ppl said he was a top 15 type player. He’s getting slot for the 13th pick or so.

    I think the first three are all going to be significantly under slot.

    The braves did go high upside. They did go for stars. They just took higher risk guys on day 3 instead lower risk guys on day 1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Russ2dollas View Post
    Signings always require context. Cost. Risk. Opportunity.

    A lot of ppl said he was a top 15 type player. He’s getting slot for the 13th pick or so.

    I think the first three are all going to be significantly under slot.

    The braves did go high upside. They did go for stars. They just took higher risk guys on day 3 instead lower risk guys on day 1.
    Thing to remember is these guys on day 3 that people get excited about?

    They’re just high upside players in the context of day 3. Not high upside overall for the draft.

    They don’t save the draft in any way. How braves fared on first two days and mostly day 1 is probably how this draft will go.

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    Thank you Rico!! Keep’em coming!!

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    Are any of the 11-40 guys rated in the top 200 draft prospects?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oklahomabrave View Post
    Are any of the 11-40 guys rated in the top 200 draft prospects?
    Yes. I don't know them all, but Owens is in the 190s on mlb and Grissom is around 110 on Fangraphs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Southcack77 View Post
    Thing to remember is these guys on day 3 that people get excited about?

    They’re just high upside players in the context of day 3. Not high upside overall for the draft.

    They don’t save the draft in any way. How braves fared on first two days and mostly day 1 is probably how this draft will go.
    Not necessarily true. Day 3 was the day that they turned the tables on this draft. I'm not a fan of missing on top tier "perceived" value but they absolutely chose higher tier players on day 3. And I do think it's overall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    I like the strategy pursued...but I think we could have pursued it even while going after the highest upside guy available with the two first round picks
    but also, maybe not. they probably knew about the number for each guy in that area and Langeliers was willing to sign for less.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Super View Post
    but also, maybe not. they probably knew about the number for each guy in that area and Langeliers was willing to sign for less.
    we'll see what Rutledge, Carroll and others sign for...havent the 1st rounders that have so far gone below slot?
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    Cody Milligan has changed his designation on his Twitter page. Big get! Miss. State signee.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rico43 View Post
    Cody Milligan has changed his designation on his Twitter page. Big get! Miss. State signee.
    Rico, if you want us to be friends you're gonna have to stop confusing USM and Mississippi State. He was committed to USM.

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