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    Quote Originally Posted by tululush View Post
    Lol that outfield is going to hit 35 home runs collectively.
    Ellsbury hit 30 in one year by himself so...
    Choo hit 21 last year.
    They could hit 50-60 between them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tululush View Post
    Lol that outfield is going to hit 35 home runs collectively.
    LOL, with the short porch?

    Would be more, if it happened.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tululush View Post
    Lol that outfield is going to hit 35 home runs collectively.
    What I don't get, is players are not aging any better than they were 10 years ago.

    Not everybody is like Chipper and can still put up solid numbers at 40, certainly not solid enough numbers to warrent that much money per year.

    Cano will be 41... same as Pujols when he signed his deal with LAA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heyward View Post
    Choo
    Ellsbury
    Gardner

    Soriano at DH

    Ichiro for depth.

    I would guess.
    Vernon Wells?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    Vernon Wells?
    LOL, well, i dont know.

    Probably would dump one of Ichiro or Wells.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yeezus View Post
    Ellsbury hit 30 in one year by himself so...
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    Fluke year and now has shoulder problems. Take out that ONE year and he has averaged 5.5 HRs per year for his career.
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    The market will eventually correct itself, but several folks will make a ton of mistakes with these contracts until it does.

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    Phillies are shopping Papelbon, says Ken Rosenthal. Will be interesting to see what they want for him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BRule View Post
    Fluke year and now has shoulder problems. Take out that ONE year and he has averaged 5.5 HRs per year for his career.
    Brady Anderson style. Averaged 19 a season, but had a season with 50. #Roids

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    How many players are even in the big leagues let alone starting at age 40-41? Can't be many. 24 million/year for a bench player?

    Quote Originally Posted by KeithLockhart View Post
    What I don't get, is players are not aging any better than they were 10 years ago.

    Not everybody is like Chipper and can still put up solid numbers at 40, certainly not solid enough numbers to warrent that much money per year.

    Cano will be 41... same as Pujols when he signed his deal with LAA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KeithLockhart View Post
    What I don't get, is players are not aging any better than they were 10 years ago.

    Not everybody is like Chipper and can still put up solid numbers at 40, certainly not solid enough numbers to warrent that much money per year.

    Cano will be 41... same as Pujols when he signed his deal with LAA.
    Since the money is spread out pretty evenly for those deals, it is a form of mortgaging the future for the present. Like George Allen trading away all the Redskins draft picks for veteran players.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
    Phillies are shopping Papelbon, says Ken Rosenthal. Will be interesting to see what they want for him.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
    Phillies are shopping Papelbon, says Ken Rosenthal. Will be interesting to see what they want for him.
    Even for high payroll teams it is a vicious cycle when you top out on sustainable payroll and find yourself with an uncompetitive team. Attendance starts declining. You have a bunch of old players on long-term deals and little flexibility. Things getting rough in Philly.

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    Lol at those "experts" criticizing Jay-Z. Cano will be good, but the Mariners will regret it after a couple years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bravesnumberone View Post
    Lol at those "experts" criticizing Jay-Z. Cano will be good, but the Mariners will regret it after a couple years.
    They will probably regret the last 3 years but it's the AL and he will be able to DH. Cano is a great hitter, shows no signs of a decline like Albert did....IF they can land a combo of Choo/Cruz/Price then I really like their core going forward. Cano also has great numbers in SafeCo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BRule View Post
    They will probably regret the last 3 years but it's the AL and he will be able to DH. Cano is a great hitter, shows no signs of a decline like Albert did....IF they can land a combo of Choo/Cruz/Price then I really like their core going forward. Cano also has great numbers in SafeCo.
    Albert was even greater and showed no signs of declining. Until he began declining.

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    Scott Feldman gets $30 million.....let that sink in for a minute....career 4.62 era......$30 million

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    Albert had his worst season in the majore his contract year including a really slow start to the season. That was the start of his decline.

    The Feldman deal isn't that bad. Its just the Astros spending some to spend money. Its a relatively short deal that will expire before they are competitive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bj1133 View Post
    Scott Feldman gets $30 million.....let that sink in for a minute....career 4.62 era......$30 million
    2 WAR player. $10M/year is a good price.

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