I'd say it's good for both, but better for Det.
Texas needed a power bat in the biggest way (no pun intended, Prince)
I'd say it's good for both, but better for Det.
Texas needed a power bat in the biggest way (no pun intended, Prince)
Trade of two bad contracts, but the Fielder contract is much worse.Originally Posted by Heyward
I'm wondering the same about Mac. Fielder making $24M this year, Kinsler $16M. Wonder if Detroit sends Texas some cash as part of the deal. That must be the case if commissioner's office is involved.
Depends on money before I decide if either team won.
Kinsler is a better player, though more of an injury risk and not as good of a hitter.
Stockholm, more densely populated than NYC - sturg
Detroit would have to send at least $30M to Texas to make this a fair deal imo.
Sure as *ell never saw that one coming, but don't think it affects Texas' pursuit of Mac in any way. They've got plenty of money to spend - Berkman and Cruz off the books, etc.. Wouldn't surprise me in the least if they signed BOTH Mac and Beltran. Talk about some lineup...WOW!!!
Profar, Andrus, Beltran, Beltre, Fielder, Mac...scary.
Has there EVER been a statement and question a certain someone should absolutely never have made and asked publicly more than...
Kinda pathetic to see yourself as a message board knight in shining armor. How impotent does someone have to be in real life to resort to playing hero on a message board?
Evan Grant @Evan_P_Grant 3h
Guessing #Rangers pursuit of McCann, possibly Choo, Beltran or Ellsbury will not be impacted by deal.
Sounds as scary as A-Rod, Pudge, Galarraga, Caminiti, Palmeiro, Sierra...
Forever Fredi
He could have played DH in Det too ya know...
Ivermectin Man
A brief perusal of the twittersphere suggests Tigers fans are happier about this deal. Agree with the sentiment.
Heyward (11-20-2013)
Cabrera is going to need to be at the DH position as well soon enough.
Natural Immunity Croc
One way of looking at this trade is it makes it a lot easier for Detroit to now add a Beltran or Choo to play left while reducing the funds the Rangers have to add someone like McCann.
like it for Detroit
Jon MorosiVerified account@jonmorosi
Tigers are sending less than $50 million total to Rangers, sources tell @Ken_Rosenthal and me. @FOXSportsLive
Interesting. If the cash exchange is 30-40M, it becomes a fair deal.
Actually, both teams would come out ahead due to the secondary aspects of the deal: clearing paths for Profar and Castellanos.
I think this is an excellent move for Texas. Fielder is gonna destroy it in Arlington. And they dumped Kinsler. Brilliant.
Jeff Passan @JeffPassan 5m
Source: Detroit will be sending $30 million to Texas in the Prince Fielder deal.
There we go. Jon Daniels did not become dumb all of a sudden. I still like this deal slightly more for Detroit, but it now makes sense for both teams.
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And Texas is still assuming ~$100MM. Sheesh.
Don't think it has any financial effect on either team. Not sure why anyone would think so.
Detroit moves Cabrera back to 1B and finally creates the 3B opening for Castellanos (at minimum salary). They can still go after a Napoli or Loney to share time with Cabrera at 1B/DH with little effect on their power. Fielder was owed $169 million. The difference between contracts is roughly $107 million. They send $30 million to Texas, pay $62 million to Kinsler, sign Napoli for 3/$39 million and pay Castellanos and they STILL have roughly $40 million to go towards signing another OF and extending Scherzer.
Texas has consistently been described as having the cash available to sign whomever they want since the day they let Hamilton walk.
Last edited by clvclv; 11-20-2013 at 09:41 PM.
Has there EVER been a statement and question a certain someone should absolutely never have made and asked publicly more than...
Kinda pathetic to see yourself as a message board knight in shining armor. How impotent does someone have to be in real life to resort to playing hero on a message board?
Great move for both teams. Not sure who won this trade.
Is there a reason Detroit HAD to make this trade?
Forever Fredi
I think this turns out better for Detriot. Fielder appears to be regressing, OPS from .981 in 2011 to .940 in 2012 to .819 this past year, plus he is about to turn 30 and is a big, heavy man with a lot of wear and tear. He is owed $24MM/year for the next 7 years, total of $168MM left. Kinsler is owed $62MM over the next 4 years, so with the $30MM coming from the Tigers, the Rangers just took on an additional $76MM for an aging Fielder, while the Tigers just gained a bunch of flexibility.
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