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    I know it's wrong to hate Jeter just because of the media nonsense surrounding him, but stuff like this makes it really, really hard not to.

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    Proof that one can be a legit HoF-caliber player and still be overrated.

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    Man, it is not easy to spot links in this forum software, is it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MadduxFanII View Post
    Man, it is not easy to spot links in this forum software, is it?
    Don't remind me. I'll fix it soon enough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KeithLockhart View Post
    Don't remind me. I'll fix it soon enough.
    I have heard that before.

    I kid.

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    Indeed, the numbers on a prospective Trout deal remain a fascinating topic to watch. ESPN.com's Buster Olney weighed in on the issue in an appearance on WEEI's Mut & Merloni (via Jerry Spar of WEEI.com). The club is feeling the pressure to sign Trout before his free agent horizon gets too close, said Olney, and baseball sources say that a 12-year, $400MM deal would not be an unfair target for the young superstar. Asking several GMs what they thought Trout could land on a one-year deal, Olney was given prices in the range of $35MM to a remarkable $50MM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MadduxFanII View Post
    I know it's wrong to hate Jeter just because of the media nonsense surrounding him, but stuff like this makes it really, really hard not to.
    Haha so true.

    Maybe they'll elect them together in 2020.

    It also shows a total lack of knowledge of the past. The reason the dimaggio exception was because he was on the ballot in 53 and 54. The exception wasn't just for him, it was for anyone who was already on a ballot. Making an exception just because of a bunch of moronic yankee fans is just that.
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    Ryan Dempster going to sit out this year. Wow. Didn't see that coming...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tapate50 View Post
    Ryan Dempster going to sit out this year. Wow. Didn't see that coming...
    Good riddance. Dempster is a twat. I'm still bitter about him turning down a trade to Atlanta a few years ago.

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    Looks like the Orioles are going to get Ubaldo Jimenez at 48M over 4 years. That would be a great signing. Looks like the teams that waited did best as far as starting pitching goes. I like the Jimenez and Garza deals for the teams.

    The Orioles do lose their first round pick. That is the one downside for them.

    As things currently stand, the Braves will have the 26th pick and probably the 33rd pick in the MLB draft.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
    Good riddance. Dempster is a twat. I'm still bitter about him turning down a trade to Atlanta a few years ago.
    I'm not, he saved Wren from making a big mistake. We may have had to give someone up as well like maybe Minor to get Justin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
    Good riddance. Dempster is a twat. I'm still bitter about him turning down a trade to Atlanta a few years ago.
    How so?

    We could of had to trade Delgado+ for him and without that, we dont get JUp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    Looks like the Orioles are going to get Ubaldo Jimenez at 48M over 4 years. That would be a great signing. Looks like the teams that waited did best as far as starting pitching goes. I like the Jimenez and Garza deals for the teams.

    The Orioles do lose their first round pick. That is the one downside for them.

    As things currently stand, the Braves will have the 26th pick and probably the 33rd pick in the MLB draft.

    Which is a pretty big deal these days. Still they are getting him for roughly 4 million per win which is pretty good in this market. One has to wonder how he will fair in the AL East though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zitothebrave View Post
    I'm not, he saved Wren from making a big mistake. We may have had to give someone up as well like maybe Minor to get Justin.
    Looking at it from that perspective, you are right.

    But ... he snubbed the Braves because he didn't believe the team could make the playoffs.

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    A great deal for the Orioles, who basically struck out on every middling pitcher available this offseason only to be rewarded with a premium pitcher at a bargain price.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KeithLockhart View Post
    Where would he have moved since Freddie Freeman was occupying 1B in 2011 and 2012?

    Also, didn't Chipper move for the good of the team to LF for 2 and a half seasons? In his prime no less?

    Also, didn't Chipper take way less money to stay here? Jeter was whining over a few million.
    This was closer to like 07 or so I believe. I'm pretty sure it was around the Andy Marte time frame, not sure if it was before or after he was traded. But he still basically refused to swap over despite the organization at least discussing the possibility about him moving to 1b.

    Not that I care really. IMO, Chipper earned the right to able to say/do that, much the same way Jeter earned to right to stay SS if he wanted to. And it isn't like Jeter is a butcher at SS, even if he has been steadily overrated defensively over his career. He's still able to field his position reasonably well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heyward View Post
    According to Mike DiGiovanna of the Los Angeles Times, the Angels are aiming to reach a multi-year deal with Mike Trout around the start of the 2014 season.
    Trout and his agent were disappointed last spring when the Angels committed just a $510,000 salary to the star outfielder for the 2013 campaign. Trout is still in the pre-arbitration stage of his career and won't have a say over how much he makes in 2014, but it will be considerably more than the major league minimum if a long-term extension can be worked out. DiGiovanna says the new contract "is expected to make Trout one of baseball's highest-paid players." And the kid deserves it.

    10 years, 400 million?
    No chance.

    Prob 10 for 250 if I had to imagine. The Angels do hold "some" negotiating power as Trout will be very cheap for the next 2-3 yrs. Wouldn't make much sense to offer him the richest contract in the history of the gane at this point in time when they still have several cheap yrs left.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
    A great deal for the Orioles, who basically struck out on every middling pitcher available this offseason only to be rewarded with a premium pitcher at a bargain price.
    Yep. Would love to have Jimenez at that price. Would really improve the team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
    A great deal for the Orioles, who basically struck out on every middling pitcher available this offseason only to be rewarded with a premium pitcher at a bargain price.
    Premium?

    Hardly but thats a decent price this late in the offseason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carp View Post
    No chance.

    Prob 10 for 250 if I had to imagine. The Angels do hold "some" negotiating power as Trout will be very cheap for the next 2-3 yrs. Wouldn't make much sense to offer him the richest contract in the history of the gane at this point in time when they still have several cheap yrs left.
    He'll be arb-eligible next year, i think.

    He could easily top 15-20 mil in arb especially if he wins the MVP.

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