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    Quote Originally Posted by Heyward View Post
    We have him for 4 more years of team-control but an extension would make sense.

    Dont know what kinda terms though given the crazy SP contracts thrown out lately.
    3 more years but yes an extension would make a lot of sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jpx7 View Post
    That fact actually might depress his market and make him an easier sign for the Braves. Meanwhile, Minor's being a lefty, being younger, and being more of a strike-out starter likely makes him more attractive to most teams, and thus more costly to extend.
    I doubt it.

    We havent had a stud lefty since Glavine.

    Pitchers still get paid, Nolasco just got 11 mil a year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AUTiger7222 View Post
    3 more years but yes an extension would make a lot of sense.
    Including this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heyward View Post
    Including this year.
    Ok. I had to look it up. I thought Minor was a free agent after 2016 because I thought he had gotten enough service time between 2010 and 2011 combined to use up one of his years of service time and that he was on the 2011-2016 6 years of team control plan when it's really 2012-2017 that his is 6 years of team control.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thewupk View Post
    If he's actually a 3 WAR player then it's pretty much market value. The going rate is 6 million per WAR.
    Market value for an average or barely slightly above pitcher is $6M per win? Great almighty scotts! Baseball desperately needs a salary cap, like yesterday.

    I remember when the Braves signed Greg Maddux. If I remember the deal correctly, it was for 5 years at $30M or slightly above that. Boy how times have changed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AUTiger7222 View Post
    Market value for an average or barely slightly above pitcher is $6M per win? Great almighty scotts! Baseball desperately needs a salary cap, like yesterday.

    I remember when the Braves signed Greg Maddux. If I remember the deal correctly, it was for 5 years at $30M or slightly above that. Boy how times have changed.
    Yeah pretty much. Also this is pretty much Baileys prime years. So it's worth maybe paying a little bit more too.

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    In random why I hate the Yankee news, the Yankees have 145+ million in payroll guaranteed in 2015 and 2016 to only 9 players. We wont reach 145 million if you include foreign signings, draft picks, and all minor league players/coaches salaries. I think we should eliminate the draft and the rights to players go to the team of the state they were born in. Yeah its entirely unfair. But when has baseball ever been about fairness. Lets play like that for a hundred years or so and see how Yankee fans like being the team with limited resources.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cajunrevenge View Post
    In random why I hate the Yankee news, the Yankees have 145+ million in payroll guaranteed in 2015 and 2016 to only 9 players. We wont reach 145 million if you include foreign signings, draft picks, and all minor league players/coaches salaries. I think we should eliminate the draft and the rights to players go to the team of the state they were born in. Yeah its entirely unfair. But when has baseball ever been about fairness. Lets play like that for a hundred years or so and see how Yankee fans like being the team with limited resources.
    The Yankees are headed for a train wreck. Attendance and TV ratings have been falling. They have less than a 50% chance of making the playoffs this year. After this season, Jeter will be retired, Gardner, Robertson, Soriano and Kuroda will be free agents, and ARod will return as a vastly overpaid player. They will have a 145M+ committed to 2015 payroll, and still have significant holes to fill in left, short, second, the starting rotation and at closer. Plus very highly paid and declining older players at third, first and in right field. Plus a very weak farm system.

    Even for a team with the revenue streams of the Yankees, it is possible to get into deep doodoo. It should be highly entertaining watching them try to dig out of it the next few years.

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    lol phillies done goofed. im very thankful for rube

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    Jon Morosi ‏@jonmorosi 5m
    Tigers and Max Scherzer are not close on extension, source says. Scherzer told reporters Opening Day is his deadline.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heyward View Post
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    Tigers and Max Scherzer are not close on extension, source says. Scherzer told reporters Opening Day is his deadline.

    They were fools to not trade him. Trade him for a haul then keep Fister.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zitothebrave View Post
    They were fools to not trade him. Trade him for a haul then keep Fister.
    Probably depends on what the offers were.

    They were dumb to trade Fister for a bag of peanuts.

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    Orioles getting Cruz for 8M. Not bad. They and the other teams that waited out the early free agency frenzy have done well.

    I wonder if turning down the qualifying offer was Cruz's idea or his agent's? If the latter, he should be fired or at least forgo his commission.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    Orioles getting Cruz for 8M. Not bad. They and the other teams that waited out the early free agency frenzy have done well.

    I wonder if turning down the qualifying offer was Cruz's idea or his agent's? If the latter, he should be fired or at least forgo his commission.
    Their Ubaldo deal has the chance to be very good. This deal is pretty much market value. He's averaged 1.3 fWAR the last 3 years. He's missed time due to injuries/suspension but it's still 1.3 WAR and the going price seems to be 6 million per WAR so this seems fair. I am surprised no team overpaid for his homers though. The guys with the loss of a draft pick assigned to them these last two years has been very interesting. Some still get what they want and others get crap.

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    Baltimore has done nicely this off season. They should have a pretty solid offense if Cruz can hit the ball without cheating. I like the Orioles to make a run at one of the two wild card spots.

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    Cruz was not a market value signing. He received multiple 2/3 year offers (was originally looking for $18MM per season) but took a 1 year pact with Baltimore at a discount presumably to rebuild value (a risky proposition at 33).

    The Orioles needed to make these kind of acquisitions to be relevant in their division -- rumor is that they are in on Ervin Santana too. Stupendous offseason for them, so far. I pitied the team when they named Dan Duquette GM but he's made some quality moves since taking over.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NinersSBChamps View Post
    Baltimore has done nicely this off season. They should have a pretty solid offense if Cruz can hit the ball without cheating. I like the Orioles to make a run at one of the two wild card spots.
    Baltimore has had a bad offseason. They got good deals on Jimenez and Cruz but that's all they've done. They haven't fixed the bullpen and they still don't have enough starting pitching.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AUTiger7222 View Post
    Baltimore has had a bad offseason. They got good deals on Jimenez and Cruz but that's all they've done. They haven't fixed the bullpen and they still don't have enough starting pitching.
    Looks like they will test the proposition about needing a proven closer. The two WS teams last year lost their closers early on and did fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AUTiger7222 View Post
    Baltimore has had a bad offseason. They got good deals on Jimenez and Cruz but that's all they've done. They haven't fixed the bullpen and they still don't have enough starting pitching.
    No team is perfect. Baltimore very easily could have one of the best offense in the American League. Evan Meek if he can get healthy can help their bullpen out. Just a few seasons ago he was pretty solid for Pittsburgh and was an all star that same season. Ubaldo helps solidify a decent rotation as well. Nothing special, but they are far from being bad.

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