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    MLB Trade Rumors ‏@mlbtraderumors 41s
    The #Royals have scheduled a press conference for 4pm CT to make a "major baseball-related announcement."
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    Quote Originally Posted by PawPawMaxwell View Post
    But, But, ALL the conventional wisdom here (yours included) is that Phillips' contract is worse than Dan's.
    I wouldn't go that far. But I'd rather not trade for Phillips and his contract. Howie Kendrick is younger and has a shorter and cheaper contract. To me he makes much more sense than Phillips.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    I wouldn't go that far. But I'd rather not trade for Phillips and his contract. Howie Kendrick is younger and has a shorter and cheaper contract. To me he makes much more sense than Phillips.
    I dont disagree with that but the Angels stated needs and reason for trading Kendricks would be to get some young pitching. Uggla just doesnt fit there. And to top that, any money we would eat of Ugglas contract would have to be added to the cost of Kendricks.

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    MLB Trade Rumors ‏@mlbtraderumors 41s
    The #Royals have scheduled a press conference for 4pm CT to make a "major baseball-related announcement."


    To complete their transition into the Atlanta Braves, the Kansas City Royals will move to south Atlanta and will play all home games at Turner Field.

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    It appears the Royals big announcment is that they have signed Jason Vargas to a three year deal.

    Edit: It's actually a four year deal
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    Apparently they (Royals) signed SP Jason Vargas to a three year pact.

    Edit: Make that 4 years. Lordy, lordy.

    $32 million.
    Last edited by Hawk; 11-21-2013 at 04:10 PM.

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    The pitching market has been insane so far this offseason.

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    Per Rosenthal, Vargas got a four year, $32M deal
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    It's a good thing the Braves farm system is an efficient factory when it comes to producing pitching. Inflation in the FA market increases the comparative advantage of teams that produce a lot of young cost-controlled talent.

    I wonder what David Hale would fetch in the trade market.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    It's a good thing the Braves farm system is an efficient factory when it comes to producing pitching. Inflation in the FA market increases the comparative advantage of teams that produce a lot of young cost-controlled talent.

    I wonder what David Hale would fetch in the trade market.
    I was about to say, FA pitching price increase should increase value of pitching at the minor league level. maybe a hair less so, but still.
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    I dont think thats that bad of a deal for the Royals. 8 million is right about the price you pay for an average starter these days. Right around the same amount they gave Guthrie last offseason. Mid rotation starters get 15 million a year in this market, #2 starters get 16-20 million and aces get 25-30 million. Vargas is atleast tied with Guthrie for second best starter on the team. I know people are going to hate on the length of the deal but I bet you its going to be backloaded a little and they could still trade him after 2 years without having to eat any salary.
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    I'd try for Capuano at 8-9M. 1 year plus an option.
    Last edited by nsacpi; 11-21-2013 at 04:44 PM.

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    Is it possible for Uggla talk and trade proposals to be confined in the Uggla thread?

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    8 mil a year for 4 years for Vargas is pretty ridiculous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    I'd try for Capuano at 8-9M. 1 year plus an option.
    If only to make sure we don't have to face him again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cajunrevenge View Post
    I dont think thats that bad of a deal for the Royals. 8 million is right about the price you pay for an average starter these days. Right around the same amount they gave Guthrie last offseason. Mid rotation starters get 15 million a year in this market, #2 starters get 16-20 million and aces get 25-30 million. Vargas is atleast tied with Guthrie for second best starter on the team. I know people are going to hate on the length of the deal but I bet you its going to be backloaded a little and they could still trade him after 2 years without having to eat any salary.
    Agreed, this is becoming pretty standard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yeezus View Post
    Agreed, this is becoming pretty standard.
    Wonder what Ervin is going to get on the market.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NinersSBChamps View Post
    Wonder what Ervin is going to get on the market.
    16 per?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NinersSBChamps View Post
    Wonder what Ervin is going to get on the market.
    14-15M, 4 or 5 years

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