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    Musgrove has now been scheduled to pitch vs Teheran on Thursday. The Pirates would've likely had to start a bad pitcher that game otherwise with Lyles hitting the DL yesterday too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Or you could just look at his total for the year, .294. That's 20 points lower than career
    not really into comparing 2019 Markakis to 2008, .351 BABIP Markakis, but thanks.
    right around .300 is reasonable to expect. perhaps a little higher for him.
    in that case, i'd note his LDs are down, GB% is up, but his HR/FB% is at its highest since 2008.
    there are a few months in the last 5 years where Markakis was a significantly different hitter than the average of the rest of those years. fact of the matter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Super View Post
    not really into comparing 2019 Markakis to 2008, .351 BABIP Markakis, but thanks.
    right around .300 is reasonable to expect. perhaps a little higher for him.
    in that case, i'd note his LDs are down, GB% is up, but his HR/FB% is at its highest since 2008.
    there are a few months in the last 5 years where Markakis was a significantly different hitter than the average of the rest of those years. fact of the matter.
    Fine, let's use him babip as a brave, .318 over 3011 PA... that makes his .294 this season 24 points less than his brave career
    Last edited by msstate7; 06-11-2019 at 02:24 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Super View Post
    LOL
    you're citing his unlucky May as some sort of evidence of something.....
    i cited his basically equally lucky March/April.......

    I don't think his May is particularly indicative of anything at all.

    I'm content to take the whole thing as it lays.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Braves1976 View Post
    Musgrove has now been scheduled to pitch vs Teheran on Thursday. The Pirates would've likely had to start a bad pitcher that game otherwise with Lyles hitting the DL yesterday too.
    Please don’t talk about the Braves and Pirates in the Braves and Pirates thread. This thread is a competition to win the grand prize of who is right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Super View Post
    not really into comparing 2019 Markakis to 2008, .351 BABIP Markakis, but thanks.
    right around .300 is reasonable to expect. perhaps a little higher for him.
    in that case, i'd note his LDs are down, GB% is up, but his HR/FB% is at its highest since 2008.
    there are a few months in the last 5 years where Markakis was a significantly different hitter than the average of the rest of those years. fact of the matter.



    His career BABIP isn't good enough for you, his BABIP as a Brave, his BABIP last year...sigh.

    Ok fine, his BABIP maintains at .294 (below league average). He's on pace for a 1.5 WAR season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Southcack77 View Post
    His career BABIP isn't good enough for you, his BABIP as a Brave, his BABIP last year...sigh.

    Ok fine, his BABIP maintains at .294 (below league average). He's on pace for a 1.5 WAR season.

    He's a below average player that's roughly a league average hitter. Nothing has changed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Super View Post
    sorry, man. his BABIP in May was .235, not .220.
    and sorry, man, but his BABIP in March/April was .364.
    to be real rough with it, if you add those numbers together and divide by 2, what do ya get?
    sorry, man - hate to be the one to break it to you....

    Shrug, I had the right number earlier in the thread.

    I'm content conceding that if he maintains a near career low BABIP for the remainder of the season that he paces for 1.5 WAR.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Southcack77 View Post
    Shrug, I had the right number earlier in the thread.

    I'm content conceding that if he maintains a near career low BABIP for the remainder of the season that he paces for 1.5 WAR.
    he's slightly unlucky in some areas, slightly lucky in others.
    throw it all together and you get what he's been the large majority of the last 5 years.
    unfortunately i'd take the under on 1.5 WAR.
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    i am interested to hear why wRC+ is an old-time stat compared to "new fangled" wOBA, the stat it's based off of, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Super View Post
    unfortunately i'd take the under on 1.5 WAR.
    Yes, we know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Nothing gives this board the red ass like posters not trashing markakis and thethe making predictions/statements about players
    its hilarious.

    For forever he was the overpaid true professional ball player with no power, now he's the underpaid true professional ball player with no power and somehow gets it WORSE from this board.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bravesfanMatt View Post
    Please don’t talk about the Braves and Pirates in the Braves and Pirates thread. This thread is a competition to win the grand prize of who is right.
    This is why we can’t have better-than-league-average things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Super View Post
    i am interested to hear why wRC+ is an old-time stat compared to "new fangled" wOBA, the stat it's based off of, though.
    I was not being serious. I thought that was clear, but I thought it was sort of funny it seemed to make you mad. I should not have done that.

    In reality, I was pointing to the statcast data as being more on the cutting edge, but anyway. This has mostly been tongue in cheek.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tapate50 View Post
    its hilarious.

    For forever he was the overpaid true professional ball player with no power, now he's the underpaid true professional ball player with no power and somehow gets it WORSE from this board.
    the team is in contention.
    having an average player in RF is frustrating - especially when they refuse to bat him lower (or even higher...) in the order, and when they refuse to platoon him (or at least frequently bench him vs. lefties). actually competing will exacerbate those types of things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Southcack77 View Post
    I was not being serious. I thought that was clear, but I thought it was sort of funny it seemed to make you mad. I should not have done that.

    In reality, I was pointing to the statcast data as being more on the cutting edge, but anyway. This has mostly been tongue in cheek.
    ..but it made literally zero sense. you used a stat that is incorporated into the more full-picture stat that i was using..to try and tell me i was wrong?
    again, Nick has one half in the last 5 years that clearly stands out from the rest. wOBA doesn't prove that wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tapate50 View Post
    its hilarious.

    For forever he was the overpaid true professional ball player with no power, now he's the underpaid true professional ball player with no power and somehow gets it WORSE from this board.

    To be fair, the in-season stakes are a lot higher now, in his underpaid days, than in those tanktastic halcyon overpaid days.

    But he’s also low on the list of problems atm, for sure. I just wish they’d platoon him pretty strictly, since his skills against same-handed pitchers have eroded to the point he’s unplayable against them, while it’s an obviously regular avenue to keep him fresh against RHPs (where the team needs his help, given how many Braves players excel against LHPs but drop off against righties).
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    Quote Originally Posted by jpx7 View Post
    This is why we can’t have better-than-league-average things.

    This thread has really slumped. Probably needs to be platooned with the ender sucks thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Super View Post
    ..but it made literally zero sense. you used a stat that is incorporated into the more full-picture stat that i was using..to try and tell me i was wrong?
    again, Nick has one half in the last 5 years that clearly stands out from the rest. wOBA doesn't prove that wrong.


    Pretty sure I referenced xwOBA, avg exit velocity, hard hit %, in the post you responded to. But I wasn't trying to make any kind of argument by comparing you to Virginia, I was trying to be funny. I thought that was clear, but it became sort of funnier to me that it wasn't clear. Very immature of me, I know.

    I enjoy wRC+ just fine. It's Coppy's metric of choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bravesfanMatt View Post
    This thread has really slumped. Probably needs to be platooned with the ender sucks thread.

    Lump in "Julio sucks" and it's basically my own forum.

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