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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    Isn't that the rub with pitchers? Teams lose control over them before they get good, then someone else enjoys the benefits.
    Precisely why I was critical of last year's decisions to put Bryse Wilson and Kyle Wright on the big club. The world doesn't end with decisions like that, but it sure truncates a lot of organizational flexibility in terms of options and service-time considerations.

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    instead of acquiring young pitching and developing it, the Braves should have relied on identifying guys like Mike Minor and Charlie Morton to fill out the rotation. what could go wrong
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    Quote Originally Posted by Super View Post
    instead of acquiring young pitching and developing it, the Braves should have relied on identifying guys like Mike Minor and Charlie Morton to fill out the rotation. what could go wrong
    I can't think of anything...those kinds of deals always work out well for the teams
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    Quote Originally Posted by 50PoundHead View Post
    Precisely why I was critical of last year's decisions to put Bryse Wilson and Kyle Wright on the big club. The world doesn't end with decisions like that, but it sure truncates a lot of organizational flexibility in terms of options and service-time considerations.
    They clawed back that service time by now.

    If options ever come into play they won’t have been hits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Super View Post
    instead of acquiring young pitching and developing it, the Braves should have relied on identifying guys like Mike Minor and Charlie Morton to fill out the rotation. what could go wrong
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    Quote Originally Posted by Southcack77 View Post
    They clawed back that service time by now.

    If options ever come into play they won’t have been hits.
    My point with the options is that they may be used up by the time things truly come together for them. For all they contributed, neither Wright nor Wilson should have thrown a big league inning last season. And that's not a knock against them. Talented guys, but need more experience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AerchAngel View Post
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    Minor had arm problems and Morton was shipped to Pittsburgh in the Nate McLouth deal. Morton is case-in-point as to why toolsy pitchers hang around. He added a couple of ticks to his fastball and that, combined with his decent array of other pitches, has made him a very good pitcher.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 50PoundHead View Post
    My point with the options is that they may be used up by the time things truly come together for them. For all they contributed, neither Wright nor Wilson should have thrown a big league inning last season. And that's not a knock against them. Talented guys, but need more experience.
    If they’re still quad a talents two years from now, it’s probably not going to happen for them, I wouldn’t think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 50PoundHead View Post
    Minor had arm problems and Morton was shipped to Pittsburgh in the Nate McLouth deal. Morton is case-in-point as to why toolsy pitchers hang around. He added a couple of ticks to his fastball and that, combined with his decent array of other pitches, has made him a very good pitcher.
    Morton wasn’t that good but dang Nate McClouth brings back bad memories. He was so disappointing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 50PoundHead View Post
    Minor had arm problems and Morton was shipped to Pittsburgh in the Nate McLouth deal. Morton is case-in-point as to why toolsy pitchers hang around. He added a couple of ticks to his fastball and that, combined with his decent array of other pitches, has made him a very good pitcher.
    Also underwent a significant arm slot change to replicate Halladay's delivery IIRC.
    The FO that needlessly promoted him early knew what they were doing and are paid to do this. We aren't, so we can't know more than them. Correction....they used to be paid to do this..

    I also don't see the reasoning behind signing DK over CK, and I'm going to assume the Braves can only afford one of them. Like Bumgarner, DK would be an improvement in the rotation, but it seems like CK would be a bigger improvement in the BP.

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