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    What to do about Fried?

    Fried has been going through a rough stretch lately and I think itís about time to ask the question what should the Braves do about it? I know some think he should be moved back to the pen. The thought process being that if heís only throwing two pitches thatís where heíll need to be.

    Some Iím sure believe we need to show patience and heíll turn it around no problem and will slot right back in as one of our top 3 pitchers.

    I myself have a middle ground approach. Fried needs to start making an effort to throw his slider more to keep people off his curve. I think this is something heíll really be able to work on in the offseason but may have trouble making an adjustment to mid year. I think we should commit to Fried in the rotation and let him be the 4/5 we thought he would be when we started the year and allow him to continue to grow. In the meantime though Iíd like to see the Braves use an opener in Friedís starts as it would provide protection for him from the top of lineups. Then next year hopefully we see Fried take his game to the next level.

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    Keuchel should allow guys like Fried and Soroka to get extra rest.
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    Fried needs to stay in the rotation, but he's gonna needs some rest as the season wears on. Skip a start and let him pitch out of the pen to keep him fresh.

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    The plan should be not to overreact to a few games of poor results just like they didn’t overreact to a few games of good results. Everyone already knows what Fried is, and a good or bad stretch doesn’t change that.

    Fried likely sticks in the rotation at least until Gausman is ready. At that point it will be someone else’s turn to take a 10 break, and that guy may very well be Fried.

    We’ve seen the Braves manage a pitching staff under AA for a couple seasons now, so this type of maneuvering shouldn’t surprise anyone.
    I think he (Teheran) finishes with a FIP ~3.3. -CrazyTrain 3/25/2019

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    Fried, Newk and a couple other guys for Bumgarner and give him a pay day for 6ish years -CrazyTrain 10/15/18

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    Kyle Wright had a great night tonight. Do yíall think we get a chance to see him again anytime soon?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    The plan should be not to overreact to a few games of poor results just like they didn’t overreact to a few games of good results. Everyone already knows what Fried is, and a good or bad stretch doesn’t change that.

    Fried likely sticks in the rotation at least until Gausman is ready. At that point it will be someone else’s turn to take a 10 break, and that guy may very well be Fried.

    We’ve seen the Braves manage a pitching staff under AA for a couple seasons now, so this type of maneuvering shouldn’t surprise anyone.
    Iím a little surprised youíre not more of a proponent of my opener thought

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slippyjms View Post
    I’m a little surprised you’re not more of a proponent of my opener thought
    I’ve said for a while now that the Braves are well positioned with a lot of good but not great SP options to come up with some creative way to leverage guys who are good enough to face 9-18 batters, but aren’t good enough to be true TOR guys.

    Whether that’s some sort of opener or piggy backing or new strategy we don’t even have a name for yet I don’t know. Fried paired with Touki. Gaus paired with Newk. Letting Minter open for Folty, or Webb open for DK. The number of talented arms is there for someone to figure something out.
    I think he (Teheran) finishes with a FIP ~3.3. -CrazyTrain 3/25/2019

    Gausman had a bad walk ratio for us -CrazyTrain 11/20/2018
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    Fried, Newk and a couple other guys for Bumgarner and give him a pay day for 6ish years -CrazyTrain 10/15/18

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    I’ve said for a while now that the Braves are well positioned with a lot of good but not great SP options to come up with some creative way to leverage guys who are good enough to face 9-18 batters, but aren’t good enough to be true TOR guys.

    Whether that’s some sort of opener or piggy backing or new strategy we don’t even have a name for yet I don’t know. Fried paired with Touki. Gaus paired with Newk. Letting Minter open for Folty, or Webb open for DK. The number of talented arms is there for someone to figure something out.
    Iíve wondered about something like this and Iíve also thought that it might be good for some relievers who wouldnít constantly have to warm up and would know when they were pitching.

    Piggy back starts might also be slightly shorter and could possibly be slightly more frequent.

    It would take some real stones though for a contender to experiment with this. Iím not sure weíre a likely organization to start messing with new things.

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    Gotta be patient with young arms. Fried is no different
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    Fried is fine. His K rate is good and his BB rate is good. His HR rate is high but that's inflated due to a very unsustainably high HR/FB rate.

    Essentially he's getting very unlucky on flyballs leaving the park.

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    ERA almost exactly in line with FIP/xFIP.

    BB/9 creeping up towards 3 as suggested by his peripherals.

    An xwOBA of .308 is a bit better than MLB average.

    The 20% HR/FB is a little high, but every stat tells us Fried is what folks with half a clue knew he was after he added the SL...a solid 3/4 SP. Let him be until his workload has to be managed.
    I think he (Teheran) finishes with a FIP ~3.3. -CrazyTrain 3/25/2019

    Gausman had a bad walk ratio for us -CrazyTrain 11/20/2018
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    Fried, Newk and a couple other guys for Bumgarner and give him a pay day for 6ish years -CrazyTrain 10/15/18

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    Opponents adjust and it's incumbent on Fried to probably readjust a bit in return. I'm not worried about him. Like others have said, let him pitch through this stretch.

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    You can't teach 94-97 from the left side.

    Give him time to gain a feel for the slider/Change at the major league level. There is a lot there to work with.
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    I've seen Fried a couple times in the last 2 weeks and it looks like to me he's getting a little unlucky with balls finding holes and gaps. It's just one of those things. I'd love for him to develop and use his changeup more. He used it sparingly in the first month but he got some nice results from it.

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    I'm concerned Fried might have found himself a shiksa who is distracting him from baseball
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    Frieds average FA is 93.7.

    I’m not sure where “94-97 from the left side” comes from, but its a needless exaggeration of his stuff.
    I think he (Teheran) finishes with a FIP ~3.3. -CrazyTrain 3/25/2019

    Gausman had a bad walk ratio for us -CrazyTrain 11/20/2018
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    Fried, Newk and a couple other guys for Bumgarner and give him a pay day for 6ish years -CrazyTrain 10/15/18

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    Frieds average FA is 93.7.

    I’m not sure where “94-97 from the left side” comes from, but its a needless exaggeration of his stuff.
    That clearly means every one of his pitches registers at 93.7 mph.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    Frieds average FA is 93.7.

    I’m not sure where “94-97 from the left side” comes from, but its a needless exaggeration of his stuff.
    look who said it

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    I'm concerned Fried might have found himself a shiksa who is distracting him from baseball
    Unsurprising. Looks like a freakin movie star.

    Why a shiksa, though? Couldn't he find a nice Jewish girl in Atlanta? Maybe with a "Shalom, y'all" plaque in her kitchen?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    That clearly means every one of his pitches registers at 93.7 mph.
    If he was 94-97 his average wouldn’t be under 94, as dictated by simple arithmetic.

    I do think most posters here have it right though. Let Fried go until he hits whatever workload limitations the organization has set for him.
    I think he (Teheran) finishes with a FIP ~3.3. -CrazyTrain 3/25/2019

    Gausman had a bad walk ratio for us -CrazyTrain 11/20/2018
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    Fried, Newk and a couple other guys for Bumgarner and give him a pay day for 6ish years -CrazyTrain 10/15/18

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