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    Quote Originally Posted by UNCBlue012 View Post
    Anderson AND Wright? Ew.
    Yeaaaahhhh......NO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tapate50 View Post
    Yeaaaahhhh......NO.
    I'd definitely be comfortable putting one of the two in and maybe adding another high-ceiling pitcher like Gohara or Touki, but putting our two best guys in a single deal with our division foe? That's just dumb.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coredor View Post
    We might offer Cleveland some useful players but contenders are really unlikely to trade a guy like Kluber.
    If the season ended today, Cleveland would be in the playoffs, and that is without Kluber and along with a bunch of their hitters underperforming to this point. I doubt they move anyone unless they are totally blown away or take a quick nosedive post-All-Star break.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 50PoundHead View Post
    If the season ended today, Cleveland would be in the playoffs, and that is without Kluber and a bunch of their hitters underperforming to this point. I doubt they move anyone unless they are totally blown away or take a quick nosedive post-All-Star break.
    Agreed. I really want Mike Minor but I'm guessing the same goes for Texas not selling.

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    Camargo gets brought up a lot lately as a trade fodder option. Anyone with a guess at his surplus value? I'm just curious.
    Go get him!

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    Quote Originally Posted by UNCBlue012 View Post
    Agreed. I really want Mike Minor but I'm guessing the same goes for Texas not selling.
    Speaking of Texas, when did Danny Santana remember how to hit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 50PoundHead View Post
    Speaking of Texas, when did Danny Santana remember how to hit?
    about the time he offered a virgin to the BABIP gods...k and bb rates are as they have ever been
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaw View Post
    Camargo gets brought up a lot lately as a trade fodder option. Anyone with a guess at his surplus value? I'm just curious.
    If you go by that new trade tool in the other thread, the Giants would have to add Watson to a Bumgarner/Smith package if they want Johan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UNCBlue012 View Post
    I'd definitely be comfortable putting one of the two in and maybe adding another high-ceiling pitcher like Gohara or Touki, but putting our two best guys in a single deal with our division foe? That's just dumb.
    Kinda disagree here. You are taking our 2 best pitching prospects, yes... the best case and probably most likely scenario is that 1 or both guys becomes a MLB caliber 3,4, or 5 with an outside shot at one becoming a 1 or 2. A lot of question marks there. Or you can trade both of them for a no doubt for sure ace/1. Yes he may have had some injury issues but they are pretty freak things... viral infection, strained ligament in an index finger... sore hammy. Nothing really too concerning. Then you consider he's not a FA until 2022 and he's only 26... I don't know how anyone would not trade Anderson and Wright for him.

    I wouldn't be on board if we were still 1 or 2 years away but if we could add a legit ace and maybe 1 or 2 more really good pen arms, this team can easily compete with LA IMO
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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    about the time he offered a virgin to the BABIP gods...k and bb rates are as they have ever been
    Another likely "live ball" beneficiary as well. That said, it must be extremely difficult to walk only nine times in 216 PAs (and that walk rate is relatively high for him).

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    I'd give the Rockies a call and kick the tires on Jon Gray

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    Apparently Sherman predicts the Mets will trade Wheeler to the Braves, Brewers, Twins, or "someone not the Yankees."

    Then John Harper speculates a Wheeler deal to the Braves could look like Allard and Wentz or Muller

    I would take that deal in a heart beat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zbhargrove View Post
    Apparently Sherman predicts the Mets will trade Wheeler to the Braves, Brewers, Twins, or "someone not the Yankees."

    Then John Harper speculates a Wheeler deal to the Braves could look like Allard and Wentz or Muller

    I would take that deal in a heart beat.
    Would definitely push for Wentz over Muler in that scenario.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaw View Post
    Camargo gets brought up a lot lately as a trade fodder option. Anyone with a guess at his surplus value? I'm just curious.

    Camargo is a utility player. Folks are overestimating his value.

    Think about how much trade value Culberson had when the Braves got him. Camargo carries roughly the same value.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jpx7 View Post
    Would definitely push for Wentz over Muler in that scenario.
    Definitely! But if they were dead set on Muller, its still a deal I would do. Wheeler has the potential to be just as good as Syndergaard IMO

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    Quote Originally Posted by zbhargrove View Post
    Wheeler has the potential to be just as good as Syndergaard IMO
    Do we want a rental with potential?
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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    For Syndergaard or similar pitcher id offer Anderson and Wright.
    Thor is a legit 1/2, and would easily be the best pitcher in the Braves entire organization. If AA can figure out how to keep him healthy, unlike the Mets with arguably the worst medical staff in the game, he would be worth a significant price.

    Having said that, I doubt Anderson plus Wright is even a top 5 offer if the Mets took bids on Thor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    Do we want a rental with potential?
    His peripherals have been pretty good. He's on pace for a 4-5 win season. That's more than just potential. Plus, if we want to resign him, we probably have a decent shot considering he's a local kid. Wheeler would automatically be the best pitcher on the team with the exception of Soroka possibly... even then, I'd put Wheeler on top just because he's been in the show longer and has the experience factor.
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    I definitely like the idea of wheeler but hopefully we are careful about over paying for half a year pitcher. Sometimes you need to save those bullets for better trades.
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    Wheeler is a clear step down from Thor, but he’s also going to cost a small fraction of Thor’s price. Therefore he is far more likely to be a solid value addition.

    Swinging a deal for Thor would probably require the Mets to overvalue a lot of the Braves spare parts. Perhaps something centers around selling Riley as a future star at 3b because the Mets are dumb and fooled by the early HRs and “he always gets better at every level” narrative.

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