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    Thor has a 4.5 ERA this year.

    Pass.

    Open up the checkbook for Gerrit Cole this winter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NYCBrave View Post
    Get the feeling the Mets won't trade Thor within the division.
    Make Wright grow out his hair again and tell him he's next Thor with more years of control.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heyward View Post
    Thor has a 4.5 ERA this year.

    Pass.

    Open up the checkbook for Gerrit Cole this winter.
    Good teams don’t sign Gerrit Cole after they become insanely expensive. Good teams trade for him before he becomes Gerrit Cole. I would like for us to identify a mismanaged player and reshape them.

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    According to MLB Trade Rumors, the Braves are among several teams interested in Boyd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UNCBlue012 View Post
    According to MLB Trade Rumors, the Braves are among several teams interested in Boyd.
    I just saw that. https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2019/...edium=facebook

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    I just found something on Boyd I never realized. Boyd was a 6th rounder in 2013... drafted by the Blue Jays when guess who was in charge? AA... If that had been posted already I must have missed it. What if we are too focused on the wrong past AA draft pick? What if he’s really going after the other guy he drafted in Boyd?

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    There are probably 17 teams interested in Boyd.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chop2chip View Post
    Good teams don’t sign Gerrit Cole after they become insanely expensive. Good teams trade for him before he becomes Gerrit Cole. I would like for us to identify a mismanaged player and reshape them.
    Generally I agree with this but the core of this team outside of Freeman are insanely cheap for the next 6 years. I think we need to focus on adding elite players to supplement that core. We have no reason to pay for mid tier players with the depth we have. That we could get Cole without giving up 1 prospect makes me feel a lot better about the money he will get. The rotation and bullpen should be uber cheap going forward if we dont add anyone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heyward View Post
    Thor has a 4.5 ERA this year.

    Pass.

    Open up the checkbook for Gerrit Cole this winter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heyward View Post
    Thor has a 4.5 ERA this year.

    Pass.

    Open up the checkbook for Gerrit Cole this winter.
    come on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chop2chip View Post
    Good teams don’t sign Gerrit Cole after they become insanely expensive. Good teams trade for him before he becomes Gerrit Cole. I would like for us to identify a mismanaged player and reshape them.
    So that really wasn't the Astros who gave Verlander $33 million per, right?

    The Braves' pitching developers have thus far been unable to harness Folty, Gausman, Newcomb, Fried, Wright, etc. - anyone projected at any point by anyone (whether here or elsewhere) to have "Ace" ceilings - what on earth makes anyone believe that would change if they got their hands on Syndergaard?

    Would Syndergaard be the best Pitcher the franchise had if he were brought in? Of course. Trading for him will require an overpay, and expecting our people to suddenly transform him is asking a little much given their history. We've yet to get someone to take that "final step". Miller did for a season, then imploded. Looks to be the same with Folty.
    The FO that needlessly promoted him early knew what they were doing and are paid to do this. We aren't, so we can't know more than them. Correction....they used to be paid to do this..

    I also don't see the reasoning behind signing DK over CK, and I'm going to assume the Braves can only afford one of them. Like Bumgarner, DK would be an improvement in the rotation, but it seems like CK would be a bigger improvement in the BP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clvclv View Post
    So that really wasn't the Astros who gave Verlander $33 million per, right?
    this situation is extremely different.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bravesfanMatt View Post
    There are probably 17 teams interested in Boyd.
    Nothing wrong in being interested in Boyd.

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    Cole's first season will be age 29. He fits the profile of someone who may well be very effective through his mid thirties. He's quite likely to be a major asset for someone...but not likely to be the Braves any more than Machado or Harper was likely to be a major asset for the Braves. Going to be too many dollars invested in one risky asset.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chop2chip View Post
    Good teams don’t sign Gerrit Cole after they become insanely expensive. Good teams trade for him before he becomes Gerrit Cole. I would like for us to identify a mismanaged player and reshape them.

    Good teams often sign or acquire very expensive players and it often helps them win titles.

    It's generally already very good, near championship level, teams with a lot of payroll flexibility. Mid-Market teams that do it on spec often live to regret it though. I'm not sure the Braves are Gerrit Cole away from being the favorite. But I guess this postseason might tell us something about that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clvclv View Post
    So that really wasn't the Astros who gave Verlander $33 million per, right?
    2 year deal

    Gerrit Cole will get a much longer deal. Patrick Corbin this past off-season got a six year deal. Sometimes those deals work out. But generally speaking there is a lot of risk in those kinds of contracts and a mid market team should stay away from them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by clvclv View Post
    The Braves' pitching developers have thus far been unable to harness Folty, Gausman, Newcomb, Fried, Wright, etc. - anyone projected at any point by anyone (whether here or elsewhere) to have "Ace" ceilings - what on earth makes anyone believe that would change if they got their hands on Syndergaard?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Super View Post
    this situation is extremely different.
    No, actually it's not.

    If there is any Pitcher out there right now that you gamble on signing to a Scherzer or deGrom-type contract, it's Gerrit Cole. Not Bauer or Syndergaard.
    The FO that needlessly promoted him early knew what they were doing and are paid to do this. We aren't, so we can't know more than them. Correction....they used to be paid to do this..

    I also don't see the reasoning behind signing DK over CK, and I'm going to assume the Braves can only afford one of them. Like Bumgarner, DK would be an improvement in the rotation, but it seems like CK would be a bigger improvement in the BP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    Soroka
    Soroka's an "Ace" already?
    The FO that needlessly promoted him early knew what they were doing and are paid to do this. We aren't, so we can't know more than them. Correction....they used to be paid to do this..

    I also don't see the reasoning behind signing DK over CK, and I'm going to assume the Braves can only afford one of them. Like Bumgarner, DK would be an improvement in the rotation, but it seems like CK would be a bigger improvement in the BP.

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    I don't know what the Braves should do, but it's vitally important they overpay for it.

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